Just how high is Everest then?

Does snow really count, the Chinese seem to think so, now...

Posted: 9 April 2010
by Jon Doran


In case you missed the furore, China and Nepal have agreed on an official height for the world's highest mountain and it is, 8,848 metres. Which is the height which Nepal said it ought to be all along. Meanwhile the Chinese had it down at four metres lower, 8,844 metres if your maths is particularly bad.

The difference is all about snow. The Nepalese figure includes the snow on the summit, the Chinese one doesn't. The whole thing led to another sort of summit, a diplomatic one in Kathmandu where the Chinese eventually recognised the 8,848 metre height, while Nepal agreed that the rock height is indeed 8,844 metres.

Just to complicate things further, while the 8,848 metre height was first confirmed by an Indian survey in 1955, American geologists using GPS equipment in 1999 came up with a third alternative figure of 8,850 metres which they put down to the continuing movement of tectonic plates shifting the mountain upwards. No prizes for guessing that Nepal doesn't accept the American figure.

All of which raises a few rather broader questions. How do you measure the height of a mountain? Any mountain? If the Nepalese are right, are there peaks which ought to be Munros in winter when capped  by snow,  but not in winter, or does that only apply to permanent snow? And what about added structures that aren't actually part of the mountain? That thing on top of Snowdon for example? Or trig points, do they add an  extra metre or so?

And is any snow permanent these days? What if there's a big dump, does Everest suddenly gain a metre or so of height? And what about sea levels? If they do rise, do mountain heights fall and will dozens of Munro Baggers feel they've climbed a couple of unnecessary peaks?

And does it really matter when you get a summit view like the one in Tim Mosedale's video above?


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Of course all these heights are supposedly measured as metres above sea level........but just how realiable is sea level as a base measurement? Sea level already fluctuates seasonally and by tides, but it's also predicted to rise with climate change......will we have to lower the heights of mountains when it rises?


Posted: 09/04/2010 at 14:54

Not to mention the fact that the Earth is an oblate spheroid!

George Everest spent a huge amount of time and money trying to find out how high Everest was a long time ago. He sent survey teams out far and wide, and sightings were taken in all types of weather. Readings were collated and subjected to intense mathematical scrutiny, with a view to reaching an exact figure for the height of the mountain. After all the work they put in, it's said that it turned out to be a nice, round, even 29,000ft. They say that George Everest was more than a bit miffed after all that work, to come up with a figure that looked like a rough guess. They say he added an extra 2ft to the figure so that it would look more like an accurate measurement! So... for a long time... the mountain was quite wrongly credited with being 29,002ft. These days it's significantly shorter... but yeah... it's all based on pretty woolly thinking!


Posted: 09/04/2010 at 15:09

> What if there's a big dump, does Everest suddenly gain a metre or so of height? Well, if you're climbing it, and want to stand on the top, then, assuming the top is 1m higher because it's covered in snow, then you've climbed an extra metre.   Which might be considered significant...

Posted: 09/04/2010 at 15:49

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