Talkback: BBC Honister Zip-Wire Documentary On iPlayer

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24/10/2011 at 20:02
Having watched the documentary, Jon, and yet beforehand having viewed the application with contempt, I cannot fault the enthusiasm of the late Mines owner, Mark Weir, and consequently think it should have been granted.
Marks confrontational personality didn't do himself any favours and I feel that had he conquered that, he could have made Natural England acquiesce over the Via-Ferrata, along too with the relevant authorities related with the zip-wire application.

I really felt for the staff at the mine, whom obviously distraught at his death, believed in him.
26/10/2011 at 18:45
I just find it unbelievable that they thoughtlessly decided to fine his widow so soon after his death! What's gone wrong with this country???
26/10/2011 at 20:00

About 5 months?

Life goes on, Jimbob. As does the process of law.

26/10/2011 at 21:12
Sorry Kate, I'm still in a bad place 3 years after my mum passed away. Salt in wounds springs to mind!
27/10/2011 at 20:06
5 months Kate?

I feel a slight anger towards Natural England's stance with the Via Ferrata line, as for me it seems not just a little nonsensical to suggest that the very slight damage from climbers feet along the line is risking the extinction of various flora local to just that line.
They seem to be suggesting that the calcium rich slate needed for those endangered plants is only present along that line.

Damian
28/10/2011 at 12:24

I understood that it was the extension to the original Via Ferrata that was the problem, although the recent program made it appear that it was the whole of the Via Ferrata that was problematic.

According to the local paper, Honister Slate Mine are now planning a new deviation route.

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Lorraine

28/10/2011 at 23:29

I've just watched this programme. The main problem I have with the developments at Honister is not the proposal for the zip wire, it's the belief of an individual that he can flout planning regulations simply because he wants to, and then expect to be granted retrospective approval.

Tesco do the same thing, and it's the reason I've boycotted Tesco for the last 4 years.

28/10/2011 at 23:34
I'm with you on both those counts, Kate.
28/10/2011 at 23:42
I think we're going to boycott Tesco, too. They are setting up a shop in Dinky Poos and have transgressed the planning process at every stage but the VoG have given in to them on every count after an imaginary rap across the knuckles for each breach. The Bastards will rip the heart out of village retail businesses.
28/10/2011 at 23:49
Seriously, Mal? That's absurd! The Budgens is fine for Dinky, there's a bloody great Tesco and the Waitrose within spitting distance in Barry, a feckin' great Asda, Morrisons and Tesco within spitting distance on the Bay. Where are they planning on putting a Tesco in Dinky?!
28/10/2011 at 23:57
Yep, it's true and refurbishment/reconstruction on the site of the Castle Oak pub on The Parade is under way. Our great butcher, greengrocer, Fourbuoys newsagent and Spar will all bite the dust. I think the pharmacies will be OK so long as Tesco don't introduce a prescription collection and delivery service but you just know they will.
29/10/2011 at 00:02
I can't help hoping that Budgens will continue to get sufficient passing trade to survive, but I suspect Tesco will undercut them. I'm just grateful that the opening of a Tesco Metro and Sainsbury equivalent in the town centre here hasn't (yet) killed off our Co-op.
29/10/2011 at 06:41

I've no time for people who think they can ride roughshod over the law just because it suits their purpose above others, the man was an ass and justice was done.

I doubt the £15'000 fine even covered the cost of bringing the case against them, the law needs changing so the authorities can issue more severe penalties to people like this.


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29/10/2011 at 06:58
I thought the most amusing bit was where he 'rescued' the sheep that clearly neither wanted or needed rescuing!

"would you have done that? ...are you insured to do that"?

29/10/2011 at 22:08

It didn't seem to run off, Glyn, which in my experience is what sheep do when they are not interested in what you have.

In all this debate about riding roughshod over the law, I would be inclined to make a judgement based on the intention of Mark Weir to provide for a local economy quite devoid of any opportunity to supply jobs.

30/10/2011 at 08:29
Damian Kimmins wrote (see)

It didn't seem to run off, Glyn, which in my experience is what sheep do when they are not interested in what you have.

I'll bow to you're obvious superior knowledge of these matters.

As regards the zip-wire, would it really provide that many more jobs?

...or was Mark Weir's ego the thing most at risk?

30/10/2011 at 08:56
What is many more jobs? Isn't that rather relative?
30/10/2011 at 10:22
Damian Kimmins wrote (see)

In all this debate about riding roughshod over the law, I would be inclined to make a judgement based on the intention of Mark Weir to provide for a local economy quite devoid of any opportunity to supply jobs.

Of course, intentions completely altruistic. Absolutely no self interest there, like increasing their already considerable income, eh?
30/10/2011 at 11:12

not that considerable when you look at the company accounts though. profit per employee isn't that much.

30/10/2011 at 11:36
Mal Mawr wrote (see)
Of course, intentions completely altruistic. Absolutely no self interest there, like increasing their already considerable income, eh?


A little gift shop attached to a mine offering small scale mined slate, with a few tours of old workings - I wouldn't call the income from that considerable, not by any stretch.

Quite where Mark Weir and his family made their money I don't know, but the programme made clear it was made it was before they bought the mine.

Damian

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