WTD Gortex tent

Does anyone have one of the following tents they would be interested in selling?

Phoenix Photon Extreme

TN/WC Gemini (or Mtn Gemini or Menlungtse)

or the Phoenix Phreerunner.

If you have a tent similiar to those above that you would be willing to sell let me know as well.

If so please PM me I can pay by Paypal, or if close enough cash and collect.

I don't, but I am curious as to why you want one.  There's at least one reason hardly anyone makes them any more...

Pete.

TN and MH still make breathable tents but reason is I want to get up into Scotland in winter and also to the alps ( next year). I have a Hyperspace which if the kids or a friend or two come is fine but solo it is just way too heavy.

And as I have good tents for lower level and lake District trying to get a good lightweight single skin (pref) for higher altitude were the breathability works fine.

the Phreerunner is not as preferable as the others but I can make it work with just a bit more care on selecting pitch, and it is lighter still.

Nope...still puzzled...why?

as per Peter...they arent made...cos no one buys them...cos..I guess...they arent that good?

(thinks..Scotland..winter...single skin even if breathable...condensation becuase of cold surface...cant see how it works...)

Yup small single skin tents even made from a breathable fabric like goretex are great condensation containers. If the walls aren't as steep as in a tipi style tent condensation might just rain down on you. On steep walls it will run down along the walls but with a fixed tentfloor your tentfloor will turn into a condensation bathtub. These tents are there to protect climbers from extrem weather instead of digging a snow hole. More like emergency shelters than for durable camping treks and using it in combination with a bivi to proetct yourself against the wetness might be safe. These are the reasons why they are almost not being built anymore. The niche of users is too small, way too small.

speed wrote (see)

And as I have good tents for lower level and lake District trying to get a good lightweight single skin (pref) for higher altitude were the breathability works fine.

When I think of the sort of 'high altitude' one might want a single breathable skin tent for, I think of 4000m+ peaks, properly high and dry places. These days people sell things like the Rab Summit 'Bivi' and Bibler/Black Diamond I-Tent for that sort of purpose; they're pretty specialist bits of gear though.

I've got a Hilleberg Soulo for when I expect bad weather and exposed pitches, and being a plain old 2-skin tent it works a treat in humid, sea-level conditions too.

I'd be interested to know the sceptics experiences with Goretex tents?  I've used my Phreerunner in varied conditions in Scotland and can honestly say that condensation has never been an issue.  Great tents that also feel rock solid in the wind, I can't understand why the concept seems to have almost died.