Probably asking the impossible but is there a micro fleece out there that anyone has found which offers some amount of windblocking even though it is just a plain fleece (ie no membranes etc)? I need to travel very light and am thinking base layer, 2 microfleeces with Gore tex paclite jacket when needed might do the trick. Although temperatures may not get lower than 50C in Himalayas where I am trekking I gather the wind chill factor could make them plummet. Any feedback very gratefully received,thank you!
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 You could take along a Montane Featherlite and never know it was in your pack; it's insanely light.
Not aware of any wind-blocking micro-fleeces out there. Most have all the wind resistance of the proverbial tea bag :o)
Seriously, get yourself an actual wind-proof. Single most useful bit of gear you'll ever own.
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 Ive not come across a microfleece that will block wind but have you considered a light windshield jacket over the top? something like the montane featherlight smock or the go lite version.
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 Temperatues lower then 50C! Thats pretty cold. I think you may want a bit of an insulated jacket at that sort of temperature. YOu may be better off with a fleece and then a soft sheell on top, that will be windproof, and snow proof and provides a bit of insulation as well.
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You could take along a Montane Featherlite and never know it was in your pack; it's insanely light.
That's what I do. The various combinations possible with a base-layer, a micro-fleece and the featherlight covers quite a wide range of conditions.
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 Polartec Powerstretch is the closest to what you're after I think. But, I go along with the windtop idea as well. Although, I prefer the Rab Quantum windtop, it's 30g lighter than the Featherlite and has longer arms.
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 Polartec Windpro is available in micro-fleece, but I'm not sure whether anyone is currently using it - both Mountain Hardwear and Lafuma have in the past so it might be worth a bit of digging around...
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 Surely you mean -50C wonderwoman, or are you going to stay in much lower regions to what most peopel associate with the himalayas?
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 50degF
I'm a heating engineer, I should be able to work this out...
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 Same answer as everybody else. Montane windproof on top of micro-fleece. No weight. No bulk. Perfect.
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 If the Montane Windshirt doesn't fit (I can't get on with their fit) try Go-Lite
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 The old Mountain Equipment fleeces were much more windproof. I think Karrimor did some too - the name "Karisma" as a material type comes to mind.
Montane windproof is the way to go though.
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 I remember - it was ME Ultrafleece :-)
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 Instead of carrying 2 microfleece, have you considered a lightweight insulating top? Rab and Mont-Bell do some very light jackets/tops.
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Thank you very, very much everyone,I think I am a bit confused, probably too much ploughing through the Internet for information, probably should have come here first! BUT I thought you shouldn't wear a soft shell/windproof treated fabric under a Gore tex waterproof but now I can't quite remember what the rationalle for this was :-(
Yours in complete muddle
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 You'd possibly sweat too much if you wore a windshirt under a waterproof but as they're so small you can just shove it in the waterproof's pocket when you need to put that on.
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 The Rab and Montane windproofs don't have a membrane and are very breathable. If you wore a windproof over a baselayer or baselayer and microfleece you should be ok. Any shell (event/goretex etc), will create a condensation barrier. If worn over a windproof, the windproof should stop moisture from the shell seeping back into your lower garments. Try to keep your waterproofs for when it's really wet as a good windproof with a DWR treatment should be ok most of the time.
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Once you have a windproof you will find you only need your waterproof when it is raining, or very very windy. This means your waterproof can be lighter because it is in your pack much more of the time. Whether you take your windproof off before you put your waterproof on depends very much on the weather - if it suddenly starts bucketing down it is hard to take a layer off. But particularly if your windproof has got wet then it is arguably better to remove it before putting your waterproof on, because otherwise you have a lot of wet inside your shell that only your body heat can evaporate.
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Thank you again for all this information, everything is becoming clearer now! I should have said I will unfortunately hit the Monsoon (as well as very hot temps in China before I get to the cold) so will prob use the waterproof a fair bit but my understanding now is that the Montane featherlite H2O jacket ( that is the one you all meant is it?!) will provide a lot more warmth and versatility as my last layer than another fleece, also nice and lightweight and not bulky! Have I got this right now?!
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