 And maybe get these guys to help...
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Back on topic..... ( sorry!) At this time of year I have a lot of condensation on the inside of the fly sheet - I have been splitting my Spirit 200 and putting the fly in a placccy bag until there is an opportunity to dry it out. Am I being too cautious? Might have to try the allin one and see how long it takes the inner to dry out?
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 I split mine when packing up, just so it didn't take as long to dry when I got home (i.e so the outer didn't soak the inner). I would have thought this would also be applicable if you were camping again a second night.
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 You've touched on an important point here Mike. The advantages of all-in-one pitching are completely nullified if after one night (for a multi-night camp) one has to separate the inner and fly due to condensation... I'd probably press ahead with your current system, but it might be worth trying (if the tent pitches and strikes as one) to open as much ventilation as possible during the night, and limit cooking within the vestibule, especially just before bedding down. This is almost certainly a good idea anyway, as heavy winds can push the wet inside of the fly against the inner, leading to water ingress.
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 Bimblefast, it's a shame they don't make them the same as they used to. I never realised they'd stopped! The only change I've made to mine is swap the guys to dyneema. I got mine about a year or so ago direct from the States and even managed to get a military discount that's normally only given to the US forces. I gave them the sob-story about shipping out to Afghanistan. It seemed to work  So all in all, I now feel even more chuffed over my buy, even with the import duties!!
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 But would you say it's as good as a five-star hotel Airman? And is the seafood (particularly the crab) any good?
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 It's far better than a 5-star hotel that would be perched on a mountain, yes. I love all seafood, particularly crab 
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 And certainly beats digging in... If I could go back ten years, I'd have gone for the crab in the first instance. It's only jealousy, after all!
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 If you've got a lot of condensation in a pitch-together, simply unhook the inner and wipe the worst off with a cloth. Aside from keeping the inner dry you'll also not be carrying a few square meters of water droplets to add to your pack weight. This is something that's much more of a faff to achieve in an inner-first pitch. After you've wiped the condensation off you can either re-attach the inner or pack it separately. Being able to take down the inner once you're inside is also useful if you want to maximise party space while leaving your inner clean and dr, or you can temporarily extend the cooking space. Those are things you can do with a fly-first pitch too, though why not have the best of all possible worlds with an all-in-one where you can separate the two if you want to? Pete.
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 This is something that's much more of a faff to achieve in an inner-first pitch. Not sure I understand....  In an inner-first pitching tent, if I'm staying put then I don't need to wipe the condensation, just let it dry (I could wipe the porches if I really wanted). If I'm packing up then I simply remove the flysheet, shake or wipe it as much as I want, then pack it separately from the inner. Not difficult, not a faff.....
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 "And certainly beats digging in... If I could go back ten years, I'd have gone for the crab in the first instance. It's only jealousy, after all! " That, Sir, would have been a very wise decision, I suspect. The Officers Mess in the RAF does still retain a certain 'Je ne sais quois' 
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 Ah. Mais oui. Fine food, fine wine, convivial atmosphere... Far removed from the uncouth depravities of the pongo JNCO's mess. I tire of that sometimes, and endeavour to bring the finer things to my hilly exploits... Down, silk, red wine, interesting company (if she can be persuaded)... And a good tent to keep us dry!
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 The advantages of all-in-one pitching are completely nullified if after one night (for a multi-night camp) one has to separate the inner and fly due to condensation... You don't have to separate them, I don't. I just roll the tent up wet. Obviously, I'll shake it first to remove as much moisture as possible. It's often far too cold and too much hassle to start drying fly sheets and unhooking inners to pack separately (a nightmare in a cramped space). Personally, I'd rather spend more time walking than messing with tents. On the odd occasion there's been a puddle on the floor of the inner, this takes about a minute to mop up with a small cloth and the inner dries fast with the porch door open. I find it far easier to try and control condensation than remove and re-attach the inner every day. I leave the inner tent door open unless it's freezing cold, and I'm trying to keep warm, or there are midges around. I leave the outer zip partially open and any vents open as much as practical with regards to the weather.
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