MIne totals more then that, 2k tent, 1.7k bag, 0.7k mat, 0.5k stove, 1.5-2k pack, food clothes and stuff will push that up to about 16k for a 2 dayer. The 16k includes cold weather gear, waterproofs, food, waterfilter, rope and a few other bits and bobs. But its not a weight I'm unhappy with.
Get something lighter then the trangia, and certainyl dont take all the pans if you use it.
I agree with Brianetta. For 2 days, the only clothes you need, other than those you're wearing, are waterproofs, an extra insulation layer, gloves, hat, and perhaps spare socks in case the ones you're wearing get wet.
There's nothing too excessively heavy in the list you've given, except maybe the stove/gas.
I'll be controversial - why not lose >1Kg by leaving the stove at home and just taking foods that don't need cooking. Personally I can manage perfectly well without hot food for a day or two and the weight and time needed for stoves /pans / cooking just seem pointless. Then again I don't have the 6-a-day caffiene addiction that many people seem unable to overcome.
If you want to save weight, I think the best method is this: Unpack your rucksack (or get every last bit of kit together if it's not packed up) and lay everything out - on the floor, on a bed, anywhere that you can see it all. Then go through everything, item by item, including things like stuff sacks, dry bags, food packaging, everything and work out:
1. What you can simply get rid of, ie do without (and are happy to do without - don't compromise safety or comfort, or that morning cup of tea for that matter, unless you're happy to do so).
2. What you can replace with a lighter alternative.
I know that may sound rather obvious, but if you really look hard at every item you are carrying, you can often remove/swap/reduce a few small things here and there, which add up.
And as other posters have said, give us a full list of everything, with weights. You probably can't/aren't going to change the big things - tent, sleeping bag etc - but you may be able to lose more weight than you think via the little things.
How much do your '24 hour' rations weigh? I find if we carry more than 1kg each per day, we have too much, so we keep it to that.
I know this sounds anal but make a spreadsheet of ALL your kit (clothes, tent, bag, washing stuff etc) with all the weights. Then construct another column in the spreadsheet detailing the items you would normally take on your next trip with all the weights.
Look to see if there are lighter things or substitutions you can make from your overall kit list. Also look for things you can ditch because you really dont think you will need them. Have a think to see if anything is duplicated (in terms of function) in your kit list. Make a third column with this new kit list and compare weights. Once you are happy, go on trip and when you come back take out all your kit and have a good hard look at what you used and what you didnt. Once you have done this you could probably leave more stuff out for next time.
If you add a comment as to the nature of the trip and the weather and area etc against this spreadsheet you will have a point of reference for next time. If you go on a completely different kind of trip next time (colder, longer etc), make a new spreadsheet and do the exercise again. This way you will build up ideal kitlists for any given trip or circumstance and therefore will be less inclined to "supermarket" the packing
Of course, as time marches on you can critically examine your overall kit list and see if there is something lighter you can replace it with either by making/adapting it yourself or by buying it. Its a constant process but it methodically examines your kit list and helps to ensure you leave the encyclopedia at home.
For myself, in the past I found that I was packing far too much for the "what if" scenarios, but have now come to realise that perhaps carrying 3 shirts, two pairs of trousers + overtrousers etc etc was a bit overkill
Safety. Own medical kit containing all the stuff you need Hygiene kit Petzl Tikka XP torch and spare batteries Map and compass (whistle comes as standard on the rucksack chest strap)
Clothing carried. Rab Drillium jacket (eVent waterproof) OMM Kameleika pants (Stretch waterproofs) Montane Solo (Pertex Quantum/ Primaloft filled insulating jacket) Rab Powerstretch gloves A Buff A Haglofs 100weight fleece pull-on and beanie. Spare socks.
Other stuff. TechTrail Summit Altimeter watch. 2xCamelbak bottles (in purple)
Food. Dehydrated main meals and breakfasts from Real Turmat and Exepedition Foods. Beef Jerky Go Ahead biscuits or fruit bakes. Energy/ Sports Bars various Cadbury's Dairy Milk Nuun Hydration tablets High5 drink sachets Lyons coffee bags Scottish Blend tea bags. Sugar. Hot Chocolate.
Luxury item. Ajungilak inflatable pillow, 150g of utter joy
Lightish, no faff, no hardship and planty to eat and drink. Most importantly, it's light enough to be able to take advantage of wearing light footwear.
Cookwear. Jetboil Spork mug Fire Steel pen knife Gas
Safety. medikit Petzl Tikka XP torch and spare batteries Petzl e+lite in emergency kit Map and compass Whistle Suncream Midge repellant
Clothing carried. Montane superfly xt jacket (eVent waterproof) Montane air pant (eVent waterproof troos) Rab Powerstretch gloves A Buff A north face micro fleece Spare socks, x-socks spare grundies - haglofs q boxer x-tremeties powerstretch banded beanie spare x-static t shirt.
Clothing Worn. monane terra convert pants berghaus x-static long sleeve zip tee haglofs q boxer x-socks or 1000mile socks scarpa nepal boot
Other stuff. garmin GPS 60 sony cybershot camera Sunglases camelback 1lite naglene bottle Plastic bottle steripen spare batteries for gps and headlamp. alpkit carbon lite poles. couple of carrier bags and ziplock bags.
Food. Dehydrated main meals from Real Turmat and Exepedition Foods. alpen and milkpoweder mixed into freezer bags. sarnies for the 1st day if on a multi day drip. Beef Jerky Some sort of flapjack or cake fizzy sweets nuts of some description good quality dark choc Lyons coffee bags or coffee and jetboil adapter yorkshire tea bags. Sugar. Hot Chocolate. bottle of real ale small hip flask
anything that needs to be kept dry is put in OD gtx airstream bags that i got on offer from backpacking light or in exped dry bags.
depending on the weather i also have other waterproofs, my rab softshell, a montane windsmock and various other types of trousers, ive also got a couple of other sleeping bags and tents that get used depending on when and where we are going.
ive also aquired loads of other gear that sometimes gets taken with me, stuff like a gorrila pod, firefly, mp3 player, magazine or book, macpac rucsac, raichle boots but again it all depends on whats happending.
finally if her indoors is coming i usually carry most of her gear in return for her carrying the food lol
ptc* how do you find the goretex socks? I tried and regretted having the sealskinz on my last outing
Ajungilak inflatable pillow, 150g of utter joy
completely agree. I have one of these and my children lovingly refer to it as the big yellow peanut (also double as an impromptu volleyball on family camp outings)
also remember you suggested the Haglof stretch pants well although they were good they didnt quite fit so i ended up with rab stretch pants which for some bizarre reason fit me inch perfect (I am short and kindof roundish these days) but it did point me in the right direction so thanks for that
Fossil, aye, including water, food and fuel. I'll carry more water for summit camps and with a heavier sleeping bag from around this time of year onwards that can push me up to maybe 11kg at most I think?
Dave, the waterproof sock thing is an ongoing voyage of discovery. I like Sealskinz, but not for days in a row as they dry too slowly. The Gore Bike socks are stretchy all over but have a seam at the heel that started to rub my socks a little. I don't blister but after a few days you might, or the socks woukld get a hole. But comfy and effective for short trips.
The Trek Mates ones are only partially stretch and fit is not as good, but they work as well if they do fit you.
I think oversocks are a good compromise as it lets you wear an ordinary sock underneath. In the tent in the morning that clean dry sock is such a nice feeling.
Digital camera... CF cards... backup hard drive... Psion... spare batteries... battery charger... assorted charger and adaptor plugs... that's 3kg already just to do my work... which is why I tend to be a bit paranoid about the weight of the resk of my kit!
Anyone out there dealing in lightweight electronic kit, or has anyone ever come across a multi-adaptor plug that really does work with all electronic items, rather than just some of them?
