 Looking for some new boots to replace some old Hi Tecs which were good but the wearing in two or three years ago hurt like no other boot I've tried. Maybe I was unlucky but it's sort of put me off. As I've used Terrocs on low level paths and found them comfortable I'm interested in views on the Inov8 Roclite 390s or an alternative boot (not shoes). 1. They will be used for 3 seasons. 2. They need to be waterproof (just a preference I'm quite comfortable with Goretex/Event lined boots even in very hot conditions). 3. Have to be lightweight, (again preference). I think the Hi Tecs were a little over a kilo for the pair. I've searched this site and can find the "First look" on the 390s but nothing else, so any reviews will be gratefully received. Thanks
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 As a matter of interest have you had a listen to one of the Podzines where I interview the designer and talk about the boots? The one dated 5/10/07.
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 Ooh, thanks, Bob, I'll have a listen of that asap cos I'm interested in the 390s too 
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Downloading it now.
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I've been using the TNF Pinyon, which is a high cut shoe -- or a low cut boot, depending on how you look at it. It's light, comfortable, has a GTX liner, a pretty good sole unit and keeps debris and water out better than the shoes I was using in the summer. They do another shoe -- the Adrenalin? -- which is very similar but with a TNF sole rather than the Vibram one of the Pinyon.
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 I have over 200 km on my Roclite 390's and can not speak highly enough about them. They are light and comfortable. The best boots I have owned and will be replaced when they wear out with another pair.
By the way, for me they are more comfortable than Terrocs.
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I'm currently using Brasher Supalite XCR boots (the fabric ones). Very light and comfortable.
Very grippy too. Much better than my old Karrimor KSB 300 boots, or my ancient Zamberlan Cambrelle lined leather things. My wife has ditched her Trailmasters for a bit and is trying the mid-cut version of the Supalite XCR boots...
Same initial thoughts as mine. Bog trotting is fine, but we've yet to do some serious long rocky mountain walks in them though.
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 the inov 8 are good boots and quite roomy in the toe box. not to be recommended if you contour/traverse a lot though due to the flexible sole and lack of heel cup support. straight lines they're perfect. but then, if you have done this in the "normal" inov 8 you know what i mean. warning: remember these are paragliding boots and not walking boots just like the other inov 8's are running shoes.
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 I'm using the Brasher Superlite GTX the leather versions and they have to be worn and used to be believed, the leather is gorgeous and very light and they feel like trainers but give the fiull waterproof and wear assurance of normal leather boots, there a bit expensive but they are well worth it ( got mine for free though  ). I prefer these to wearing trainers made of cheap fabric that isn't waterproof and wears down after just a hundreds miles walking. Whats the point in going rediculously lightweight when you can make the same difference using the above boots that are full leather and fully waterproof and up to anything I have thrown at them and I've been in a variety of areas on the Cullins in them even and in the swampy areas on Bleaklow!
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 Here's a link to a thread from a week ago that covered the 390s, including my own observations on early usage. I won't repeat it in full here, but I'm less than impressed so far although willing to persevere a bit longer.... Previous Roclite 390 comments
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Thanks everybody. I tried the Brasher Supalite XCR this weekend and they didn't feel right. But as I wear orthopaedic inserts it might well be those that were the problem. Looking at what you've all said I won't go out of my way to try these but if I come across them I'll try them on.
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 DB2, Are the inserts ok in the Terrocs? I have to wear inserts, but can't get them comfortable in my boots.
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 I like the Inov8s and prefer the mid-cut version to the shoes which don't always agree with my heels. I'll update the review some time, but I think they're excellent.
The other mid I've been really impressed with is the Berghaus Pro Rush Mid. I didn't think I'd ever say that I liked a Berghaus boot as most of their previous offerings have left me destinctly underwhelmed, but the PRMs I used on Tuesday for a four hour walk in the Lakes were excellent. Nice and light, very grippy, very comfortable and they have a Gore-Tex liner too.
Susan reviewed the women's version and thought the grip on wet rock was questionable, but so far I've found them okay, though to be fair that was mainly on soft and intermediate ground, so I'll reserve judgement for now. On some types of rock, various slatey crap for example, everything seem to slip, so it's hard to say, but based on my use so far, I think they're very good and the new last is much better than the old one imho.
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Had a good look at a pair a little while ago and I found them too roomy,it felt as if I was wearing the boxes!! and that was after dropping half a size (dropping a full size meant my toes touched the boot end),I am all for lightweight footwear but these did not suit me they felt a bit like baseball boots with grip.For the time being I am sticking to my Karrimor Java Mid for the hills and have just got a pair of Grisport bendy leather boots for walking the local muddy paths (the leather is easier to wash off and I am a lazy beggar).
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Shuttleworth Yes the inserts I wear are fine in the Terrocs. They do occasionally limit what I buy as sometimes they don't sit "right" inside boots/shoes. Usually the problem is that the heel on the insert is too wide for a boot/shoe but on the Brasher there seemed to be a gap between the insert and the bed of the boot at the front end of the insert (the inserts go from heel to instep) leaving a sort of step in the boot (no pun intended). I could just feel this in the shop and thought that after a few miles it could become a problem. I'm afraid it's a try and see process once you have inserts. By the way mine are medical (is that the right term?) inserts to correct flat feet, made to fit my feet not ones you buy off the shelf. John I saw the review of the Berghaus Pro Rush Mid and will add it to the list of kit to try. I think I now have a good reason to visit to the Outdoors Show in March to try as many as possible. Pete A lot of the reviews on these boots mention the width as a problem. I'll have a look at the Java's too. Thanks again.
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 No-one got the Salomon Elios mids, apart from me? Well, I like 'em, anyway! They seemed to grip on everything except wet rock at first, but now even that isn't a problem. Nice and light, comfy, waterproof... ...they'll do for me!
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I've got a pair Mick, and tbh I think they're going to work out better in the long run than the Inov8 390s. I've been quite impressed with them, although I did wonder on one occasion whether they were leaking so I'm moitoring that in case the goretex is faulty.
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My wife and I have replaced the standard footbeds with Orthaheel Sports inserts in all our walking footwear, including the Brasher Supalite XCR's, with no problems.
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Cheers, I`ve got full length insoles for Plantar Fasciitis. They lift my foot quite a bit. I`ll try them in some trail shoes soon.
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Matt C, I've thought mine had sprung a sudden leak in the past, but they haven't! I think it's that "uh-oh!" feeling you get when you put the boot into water, and what's actually happening is that you're feeling the cold temperature of the water, so for a split second it feels as if some has got in - but it hasn't, it's the water that has rapidly cooled the outside of the boot, and your 'foot sensors' (eh?) have picked up the temperature change. Or, I could be talking out of my arse, which has happened before.
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