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Inov8 Roclite 390 GTX?
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weird sensation that mick. i know exactly what you mean. the rapid cooling of the outer also condenses any moisture in the boot so your socks can feel wetter than usual and hence you may think they leak a little bit.

matt's points are quite valid for a walking boot. these aren't walking boots and so you have to make compromises.

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Mick, I don't reckon it's your a*se talking!

I know that sensation, although more from using Sealskinz waterproof socks and again getting the impression that they're leaking but taking them off to find them dry inside, so it is the temperature effect as you describe. I got a bit of the same today out on some very boggy west pennine moor in the Roclite 390's wearing a smartwool sock. But I was dry at the end despite considerable emersion - these boots are impressive in that respect.

With the Salomons thought I have ended up wet inside a couple of times - the question though is whether it got in through the membrane or down the ankle....

BTW, the Roclite boots were quite comfortable today, although still with rather too much room in the forefoot. I think I'll see if I can try a volume adjuster for either the front of the foot or the whole foot. Otherwise though I think that they may be fine on relatively flat terrain but just not work so well when the gradient steepens up a lot!

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I'm a Smartwool kinda guy meself! Although I sometimes use those socks with an inner liner already included, I think my current ones are from inov8. They're very good too, especially for long distances, or wet feet scenarios. A good way to avoid any blistery problems, not that I often get any.
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I have superfeet green in all my shoes for the same reason as Shuttleworth, which definitely helps with the volume on the 390's and also accounts for the fact that I have to take a half size bigger than normal with Inov-8's. Generally agree though that the forefoot of the 390's is roomier than the 315's.

I've experimented with tightening the lace on the forefoot, then knotting the laces here and independently tensioning around the ankle, this also helps some with the sloppiness for me too, but ymmv. I find it virtually impossible to tension the whole lace as one, but otherwise I'm really happy with the 390's and they're lasting pretty well too, albeit mostly on Dark Peak mud and bog, where the soles don't get much punishment.

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as richard says, with a little imaginative lacing the forefoot room isn't much of a problem.
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There's an awful lot of the forefoot volume that isn't reducible with the lacing. I think volume adjusters are going to have to be the way to go......
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Inov-8 sell a 3mm footbed which can also be used as a volume adjuster. Needlesports sell them here for £4. I'd be careful of Superfeet - they may well interfere with the fascia band technology designed into the roclite sole.

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never thought about that till you mentioned it als. i usually use conformable foot beds but found they are less effective in inov8s and have reverted to the original footbeds that come with them.

i have fairly wide forefeet so the volume is nice for me.

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I remembered that I've got some volume adjusters in my Terrocs, so I tried them last night. They're not cut quite the right shape but first impressions were definitely that they'll help. Time to invest in a new pair....
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Apologies for the self promotion, but you won't find the info anywhere else   I've been using Icebug Speeds for a while and they fit the bill from trail walking to crampon use.

http://www.petesy.co.uk/?p=116 (follow-up)

http://www.petesy.co.uk/?p=76 (first look)

I find the 390's heel cup too soft when I'm contouring as my heel wants to bend the shoe and the ankle cuff holds my ankle joint rigid so I get cramp and I can't adjust to the angle. Better with a thick sock in the snow.


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