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I was going to start a new thread with this question, but this one seems a fairly appropriate place to put it:

just acquired a Laser Comp and I seem to remember reading something about guyline modifications which make it more stable in bad weather.  I've googled, and used the search facility here, but can't find anything.  Can anyone enlighten me?

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Llywelyn Ive put longer dyneema guys on my laser and find it stands up to the wind better as each guy is closer to parallel to the ground. Check out my gallery, not sure if that's any help but if its something else you mean I'm interested too.

The night I took those shots (only the other week) my laser took a bit of a pasting in the wind. Originaly I was pitched pointy end into the wind but during the night it swung round and was skelping me broadside. I didnt get much sleep as I was lying all night getting slapped in the face with the tent fabric waiting for a snapped pole or for me and the tent to take off!. I could hear the wind "roaring" as it was funnelled between the hills and then it would slam into the tent with a horrible "WHUMP" noise. In the wee small hours I eventually drifted off thinking "well if its gonna break, it would've done it by now!"

I knew it was gonna be a bit windy and wet that night and my pitch was exposed (wanted to test tent a little bit more) but I really got caught out a bit. It was "brown trouser time" for a wee while.

When breaking camp it was just as wild, the wind had swung back round to the pointy end and I was worried about damaging/losing my tent when I started taking poles/pegs out. I removed the carbon end struts, got out and closed the door then dropped the pole and dumped my rucksac on top to stop the wind catch thing fly. I removed the pegs then started stuffing the fly and inner into an exped drybag before removing the rucksack. No problems! job done in about a min and a half.

When I inpected the tent at home while drying it out there is a slight bend in one of the pole sections but not anything I'd worry about. As its near the end of the section rather than the whole length of the section I might replace it before I'm in strong winds again.

My confidence in this wee tent has soared enormously and I think you will now find me summit pitched in this wee beasty in all but the worst conditions.

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Nothing hard about it , inner and outer together  ,bang it up , and when its up , have a walk around it adjusting as you go . No problem .

 If I do have a problem , and its only a small one , (advice please ptc*) is that sometimes I get a largish gap between the outer sheet and the ground  and sometimes I dont . Am yet to suss out why . Its probaly very obviuos .


I get this occasionaly aswell. I think its to do with it not being pegged evenly like PTC says. This can be caused with uneven ground as well as human error. 

I usually carry a few spare pegs (handy for stabalising my stove) and sometimes peg one of the peg points with the inner and outer pegged separately. I find this helps even the tent up sometimes on uneven ground.

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BBF, Where'd you get the Dyneema? Is there any tips to using it as guyline, I heard it was a pain to knot, and can it damage the material it's tied to?

I guess you don't peg all three end points with one peg now,  as the top flysheet guy is now a lot longer?

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I got it from Morph from on here, on his Ebay site (I believe he has a new one).

It came with mini line locks which work very well. I didnt have any trouble knotting it as it comes with a braided sheath around it. I believe the Dyneema itself is very slippery stuff which could give you trouble to knot which will be why the sheath is there i suspect. I find it works very well.

I keep meaning to "pimp" my Vango Tempest's guys and pegs and see what the reduction in weight is.

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highly rate Morph and Team Io

bought tons of stuff from him (tarp, groundsheet, pegs, lines).

Have also started replacing other tents with dyneema from Morph 

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Dyneema is beautiful stuff for guy lines.  I got my spare guys for my Crux Bomb from Bob at backpackinglight. Knotted easily.  Had to seal it with a little flame, after cutting it myself to 6 even lengths.  I used the 2mm dyneema, but I suspect 1.5 would be more than adequate.  I also added mini line locks from the same site which are simplicity to use.
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Hi  i have added 2mm dyneema guylines to either end of the tent attached to the same points as the little white guys supplied with the tent. this is to give me some insurance in high winds as last year camped high just below Lochnagar the wind got up and all the 3 end guying points came out so i got a facefull of tent and had to pack up and move to a less exposed site a few hundred metres lower down in the middle of the night.  I was using the original carbon fibre pegs supplemented by some of those extremmely thin titanium ones BoBC sells. Part of the problem is trying to get small pegs to penetrate shallow soils so now use a huge alpkit peg at each end to anchor the main pegging points. i dont use the optional raincover but use the tie points on the pole sleeve to run 2 dyneema guylines off either side of the pole. I have used the tent high and in some pretty windy conditions without any major problems just the usual flapping you get with single pole tents but in those cases ive had good solid pegging points .Ill report back after my next windy trip!
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I changed the ties on my Go lite tarp for builders nylon plumb line cheap,easier to avoid knots and to see; to avoid tangles I also wrap the lines around little rectangles of foam.
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I took delivery today of a windmeter so next time Im out in the Laser in bad weather I can get some actual figures instead of "it was hard to stand up"
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Well have fun with your new toy and keep us posted!!

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Bigbananfeet,

I've been thinking about buying a wind meter for some time now. I can't seem to find one from any online retailers I know. Hope you don't mind me asking, who did you buy from and what model did you get?

cheers

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This one from ebay.

It's a Skywatch explorer 1, the most basic model I think. I didnt want any other fancy gizmos in or on it. Its smaller than I imagined and only weighs around 50 grams. The total including p&p was £22.98, not a bad deal I thought.

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I got the most basic of these, the Silva ADC Wind, from here

http://www.aboveandbeyond.co.uk/shop/Weather-Monitors-p-1-c-1069.html

It's dearer than the ebay offering above, couldn't say if it's any better!
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I have Skywatch -  no frills lightweight and basic - Job done!
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Think i need a Skywatch he he he!!

Shall see what my laser comp can do saturday night,wish me luck!!

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Diddy you need an anvil

My older Laserlite has been through some interesting weather and it hasn't been flattened yet! I've lay on my back waiting for take-off a few times. I even pitched it in the dark on what turned out to be a watercourse and stayed dry, even though it turned into a river during the night! Got soaked when i tried to get out though!

 Good luck DIDDY! Great wee tent.

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ed hyatt wrote (see)
Diddy you need an anvil

An anvil tied to each peg point judging by his last performance with a tent

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