 Damn you Charles - i'm going to have to buy some fizzy drinks, either alcoholic or not and have a go at this. shiny photos always make things more "real"
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 Damn fine diy detailed post there indeed Charles! 
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Back from Lidl now. 5 soft drinks cans, 4 beer cans and 2 Red bull cans to experiment with now. Bring the flames 
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Please don't try to drink those all at once there now Rog! 
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Remember Withnail and I, and that good advice of: 'You should never mix yer' drinks!'
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 thanks jamie. looks a nice easy, safe way to do it.
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 Hey, can I trust Parky again now the winter wear has gone ? I do pretty much what Jamie does except I clamp the stanley blade between 2 M12 nuts on an M12 bolt thats welded upside down ono a plate has the same effect but its height is adjustable. For those who dont have access to a workshop/welder I have also trapped the blade between the pages of a very large and heavy book. Just press down hard on top of the book thus squeezing the blade and be a little lighter with the can. Works quite well and stops the missus blowing a gasket when she discovers you have screwed a stanley blade to her lovely chopping board
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 My method is to wind a bit of masking tape round the can, then use a pen or pencil instead of the blade to draw a line, then use Mrs. Frum's old dressmaking scissors to cut round that line. I'm happy with that method unless the Jamie way produces a smoother edge - intend to test that. BTW, Mrs Frum had to buy new scissors 'cos she lost the old ones.
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Yeah the Jamie way creates a very smooth edge with hardly any burs or rags, its also quicker and makes a far neater cut.
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bbf, would you trust a man with that expression? if the answer is yes, can i interest you in this nice akto, only pitched once in the living room......
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 Charles I will give that a go, like you say it seems much easier than the way I do it, I'm impressed by that idea. I'm looking forward to having another go at this again.
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 Evening all, I saw an american how to with the afore mentioned bud bottle, It seemed simple enough to imitate but I have been long pondering a suitable alternative to having some american friends getting very drunk and posting me the empties, Im now looking at my old SIGG bottle in a new light Anyone tried one of these, and looking at the circumfrence it should be stable enough to hold a TI mug (or similar) without the need for a pot stand? Anyone got any ideas on how to cut it as the aluminium grade is alot thicker than a can, which im hoping will make it more durable. I have asked a plumbing mate of mine for a pipe cutter and used it on a test run but it uses to much pressure and buckled the bottle.
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Have you considered trying a hacksaw? you'd need a vice to hold the sigg steady though. Possibly consider that weight of a sigg base is taking you close to industrial burner in weight, and the cost of a sigg (you'd need more than 1 to emulate the penny stove, or most zen stove designs). Given you can buy a trangia burner for about £12 and then spend time designing a stand, pot stand and wind shield to go with it then I'm not sure why you'd want to damage a sigg bottle.
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Hi RW, Im n ot worried about the bottle its old and showing signs of neglect since i switched to a bladder some time ago, The version i saw use's the top and bottom from the same can. What do you mean by industrial burner?,
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I meant that, for instance the trangia burner can be bought for £10-12. I'd suspect that a trangia burner would be lighter than a home made meths stove made from Sigg bottle. I've just weighed them (I have both) Empty Sigg 1l bottle = 150g. Trangia burner (with some fuel still in from my last trip) = 125g. The can based stoves offer a significant weight advantage over a trangia burner. I'm not sure that a sigg based stove will offer the same advantages.
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n'ahh Gotcha i assume 150g is for the whole bottle, the design allows you to lose 3/4 of the nottle itslef which i was thinking i'd make a rudimentry wind shield from, so as a combination the shield and burner would be 150g in that case so thanks for checking it out, Im also looking at the cool factor over a trangia burner, and im thinking i wont need a pot stand as it would have a flat rim around the curcumfrence to stand the pot on once the flames are comming from the side holes. the other question is - should i just chuck my gas burner in as i have done in the past.
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I assume you're planning on making a jetted burner with the sigg bottle acting as the valve for the pressured fuel. Frum might be better placed to answer your questions as I've still yet to make a stove, my knowlege is so far only theoretical.
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no better than mine then mate, saying that i have no idea what u just said, The one im doing is a simple chop off the top and bottom, file small channels into the neck then invert it into the bottom, holes around the edge, meths in the middle , this seeps into the part between the neck and outside wall and comes out of the holes one primed. if thats a jetted burner with a bottle acting as the valve for pressured fuel, then yes Ill see if i can find the exact video, hang on
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Perhaps here and about half way down "hybrid side burner jet alcohol stove"
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I've taken the liberty of re-posting Charles the Kiwi's piccy of his penny stove to point out that the top edge of the base comes up higher than the burner. According to Mark Drury you prime the stove by lighting fuel contained in this outer ring. The reason I'm saying this is that I'm about to post a video from a bloke who didn't make his penny stove this way and instead squirted the priming meths all down the side and on to the ground, then complained about the conflagration. Other than that though, I think the video is worth watching.
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