 Morning! Just received a Rab Quantum Endurance 400. Very happy with it, brilliant bag! Something I don't understand though is this: both the hood and the shoulder baffle have 2 "loops" instead of one loop and one "plastic rectangular piece" or something like it. Normally these are supposed to be connected with eachother to increase warmth, but I fail to do this. Should one of them have another shape or I am just not smart enough?  Included some pics for clarification
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 I have the same bag - I assumed they were just the terminations of the elastic.... Perhaps you are right, perhaps there is more to it - Have you tried asking Rab? If you do, please let me know the outcome. It is a good bag though.
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 I have a rab bag with those loops too and they puzzle me. I haven't had any problems with tightening up the hood thing and neck baffle enough to keep warm so I just stopped worrying about them. My older rab bag has a presstud where those loops are (and no loops).
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Well it can't be a factory mistake if multiple people have in their bags, can it? But it doesn't look like excellent engineering either. Mysterious... The hood doesn't seem to be much of a problem indeed, because the zip keeps it together. The neck baffle however gets out of its shape and keeps the left of my neck/shoulder totally 'uncovered'. I'm not afraid of getting cold, but it just doesn't seem right. I did email Rab this morning and I'll post the answer as soon as I get one.
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Update: was curious and crawled in again. When I fiddle around the neck baffle a bit, I get it to 'hug' my neck almost completely. Maybe it's some brilliant engineering afterall I'll let you know when Rab answers.
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 I was too embarrased to ask  will be watching this thread with interest
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 Looking over the missus' Q600 I'd assumed the same as Fossil Buff: just the way they terminated the cord. She's never complained of problems with hood or collar. Pete.
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My RAB bag has the same loops, with a press stud about an inch away to hold that end of the neck baffle together if you want to. At the other end of the loops are drawcords with spring-loaded toggles so you can pull the neck baffle up really snug. I reckon the loops are just the terminations of the drawcord - by sewing back over the loop it prevents the end of the cord from fraying.
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As ALS and others say - if you look at the cinch cords on jacket bottoms etc etc they are often done the same way.
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 Damn, I was hoping from the thread title, that this question was going to be about quantum physics too, so very much indeed!!!!   Never mind though! At least your question asked has been well answerd for you here above, I can see there, Jasper! In a response ways I mean-as I know you don't yet have the full complete answer as yet.
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...alright then Trevor - What does a process model of motion tell us?
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I saw a bag like this with such loops in a shop and thought it just maybe some new idea way of preventing the cord ends being lost in around-beyond fingers reach-into the cowled hood edge there of the bags, perhaps.
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 What does a process model of motion tell us? That you're eating enough fibre?
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Stop dodging the Q Trev - you asked for it ! I want an essay of 5000 words on the subject by 17:00 today  Katie - stop being silly.
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I thought that a good answer there Kate-straight off the top of your head like that though!
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Get on with it Trevor; no prevarication, no shilly-shallying.
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And damn it all, I should have said, that I was very proud indeed to see that this sadly recently departed father of some great modern scientific thought, was described as being a regular and very keen hiker in the great outdoors too! 
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 What does a process model of motion tell us? That you're eating enough fibre?
I thought that a good answer there Kate-straight off the top of your head like that though! I agree with Trevor. Should that worry me?
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