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I agree with Parky, I used a stove once in the scouts that boiled water very quickly but when I tried to cook on it, there was much smoke!
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Did you get the Smoke Signalling Badge then by any chance?
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Offroad Shoe wrote (see)

>gulps and swallows humble pie offered by Frum< 

What's that then Mal?
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Ha Ha, it was awful. Ruined dinner and there isn't anything worse than burnt food after a long walk!!
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Ha Ha, it was awful. Ruined dinner and there isn't anything worse than burnt food after a long walk!!

No burnt food?
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Frum wrote (see)
Offroad Shoe wrote (see)

>gulps and swallows humble pie offered by Frum< 

What's that then Mal?
Ah! Now then, you wouldn't know would you Frum? No humility!
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Yes, I would not use anything so powerful to cook on again. Nothing more satisfying than eating something tasty you feel you have earned!
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Offroad Shoe wrote (see)
Frum wrote (see)
Offroad Shoe wrote (see)

>gulps and swallows humble pie offered by Frum< 

What's that then Mal?
Ah! Now then, you wouldn't know would you Frum? No humility!
"No humility".  That's me alright, but I still don't know what you're talking about at the moment.
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fast stove with adjustable pan supports. my stove doesn't need it. it's got a small turny thing on the side. the thing you have to twiddle to light the stove. or have i got the wrong end of the stick?
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If it is only for a night or two why not take sandwiches instead?
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Oh yes - and drink water.
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Bloody stupid idea.  Have you ever tried to boil water on a sandwich?
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A lot of pan supports are both adjustable and removable on many stoves too aren't they. I can remember in the past meeting a few folks on the hill, in various locales I was in over time, who'd lost a support or two in their travels. For the life of me I never figured out how they managed to do that though! They were trying to improvise a support to make their stove usable then. In one case I saw a guy trying not to get his gloved hand burnt off, whilst holding the pot over the stove to make up for the single missing support out of the three! Mad!
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Bloody stupid idea.  Have you ever tried to boil water on a sandwich? - Wrote Frum.

I just bet bloody McGuyver or the A Team could do though!

Edit - I have and still do just watch far too much crap American tv, don't I!

Edited: 23/07/08 22:35
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Frum wrote (see)
Bloody stupid idea. Have you ever tried to boil water on a sandwich?

roflmao.

About the other thing Frum, forget it, it doesn't matter, the reference is obviously a little too lateral. I can be a bit vague at times.

Edited: 23/07/08 22:36
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Do Wayfarers need constant heat, or can you get the water up to boiling then stick the pot in a cosy? If so, how long does it need to sit in the cosy after boiling? I'm using a gas stove, if there is any relevance, not so bothered how long it takes, just how long to get it to eating temperature.

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As a wayfarer I would say that too much heat is not a good thing, ventilation is important especially after eating that intensely flato-genic (I made that up) Wayfayrer meal, Bacon and Baked Beans. I certainly don't want to be boiled nor placed in a cosy, thank you very much.
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Do Wayfarers need constant heat, or can you get the water up to boiling then stick the pot in a cosy? If so, how long does it need to sit in the cosy after boiling? I'm using a gas stove, if there is any relevance, not so bothered how long it takes, just how long to get it to eating temperature.

Wayfarers can be eaten cold.  They dont need to be cooked, the heating is only needed to make them taste like cooked food.

A cosy for a few minutes followed by another quick blast from the stove should be adequate.

It is a waste of fuel to heat them to the point that you need to leave them to cool before eating.

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the fuel waste is in giving them another quick blast on the stove. but i guess that depends upon the size pot you have - a boiling water pot or a cooking sized pot. the latter also being able to boil water.
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I haven't much experience of cooking with gas; my stove is a Whisperlite that has been going strong for years and I have used Trangias on many occasions (and hexamine more than once )

As Parky says, the need for speed is often overstated. My Whisperlite is fast, but I bought it as it was (back then in '97) one of the lighter options especially for multiple day trips without refuel and there wasn't any problem getting fuel for it when abroad. If I was being particularly analytical about it, I'd say that mass of fuel to boil a litre was a more important stat than time. Some stoves/pot combinations are clearly 'fast' but inefficient, chucking loads of waste heat around. Others are slow but a good proportion of the released energy makes it into pot.

Still, it is nice to be able to get a brew on quite quickly; and for the higher altitude adventurer, being able to melt quantities of snow and bring them to the boil can be time-critical too.

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