 Jon, I don't think the 'submit route details' form was ever built to convert values on the fly - it's not a toggle in that sense. The distances will always display on the front of the site in metric, so there's no functional reason to need to change them back to imperial on that form, is there, when they've been imported from the route-trace page or a gpx file? If you were submitting a route manually - with no tracing or gpx file - you might want to choose whether to use metric or imperial, because you'd be submitting the disance yourself. Maybe when a route is imported from gpx or the route-trace page we should grey out the following fields on the details-page form: - start/end point
- distance
- elevation
That's because if you uploaded a file then changed these details on the details page, you'd end up with a map and a gpx file that had different values from those displayed in the summary box on the route page. (Changing the Details page doesn't change the gpx file, which is also used to plot the route on the site.) Whaddyareckon? /excess of detail
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 Makes sense 
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I like it a lot. But a couple of small things I think would improve it are - What are these KMs? I work in Miles. Can you show both?
- The uploaded photo's need to be displayed a bit larger.
Other than that a great app. Thanks
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 OK, i am playing around with it but, how do i delete a route from the "my routes" section?
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 OK, i am playing around with it but, how do i delete a route from the "my routes" section? Right now I don't think you can, although it's possible for us to delete it. I think it's fairly reasonable that the route owner should be able to delete their own route though.
If you really do want it deleted, I should be able to do it.
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 Its ok Jon, like i said i am just playing around with it, learning how it works as this is all new to me. However i think it would be a good addition for a route owner to be able to delete routes.
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 I tend to agree Fwiw, as with other areas of your profile, you can toggle the 'My Routes' page on and off for public viewing, so you can choose whether other OM users can see your personal routes or not. If you want to share a route with another individual, you can always send them a link to your route on your page, so while the route isn't on the main routes system, it's still possible to allow others to see it. As you may have noticed, the new system's now completely live and reachable via the routes tab at the top of the page. The 'My Routes' page is now live under your personal pages - top lefthand side of the page - and there will be a 'Routes' section of the forum in time, right now the forum link on routes pages goes to the 'walking and climbing' section of the forum.
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 Thanks dude......
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Tried the new routes section today, my mapping software is Tracklogs v2 and it does not support GPX (apparently V3 does) So downloaded the latest version of GPS Babel from http://www.gpsbabel.org/ never used this software before but was straight forward and seems to support a lot of formats. How long before a route appears after submission?
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Hi Ray, I'm one of the chaps involved in the new routes system. Thanks for submitting a route. I'll ask the moderators to publish it ASAP. All the best
Ed
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 I give in. I can't get GPSBabelgui to successfully translate from GPX to TRL (tracklogs) format. I've checked through the FAQ and no luck. Anyone got any advice? I'm using Tracklogs v3.12.03 and v0.2.15.0 GPSBabel. [sigh] so near yet so far....
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 Or to put it another way: gpsbabel -t -i gpx -f "Jacks Rake.gpx" -o dmtlog -F "Jacks Rake.trl" isn't working for me!
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Downloaded GPS Babel V1.3.5 from site (though in prog it says 0.2.15.0 ?) saved a walk from tracklogs in new folder called tracklog walks (using save as) Open Babel and set Input format as tracklogs .trl from drop down menu Navigate file drop down to file you have saved click output set as GPX XLM then click waypoints routes tracks as required and convert. This is with the GPS Babel GUI-2 installed. Hope this helps but not exactly computer genius.
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 My trouble is getting the gpx file and opening it in Tracklogs. Never mind, I'll keep hacking around for a FAQ or somesuch.
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Have you tried tracklogs support, they told me V3 can handle GPX files?
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So do i have to download this babel software before i can convert my 2004 memory map files to gpx? Others have said that i can right click and save as but my version doesnt give that option and GPX is not a file type it is recognising 
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 GPSBabel seems to offer a pretty comprehensive range of file format conversions. But, not having any of these mapping tools, I can't tell you if they're successful... Of course, if you will use a tool that insists on a non-human-readable file format (TrackLogs .trl files), it's hard to see whether the resulting file is correct... Martin, I tried GPSBabel on a GPX file I had lying around, and it converted it immediately. It produced the same result file in both GUI and command line modes, and with the 'Track option' set or not. Sadly, as I said, I can't check binary format files, and I don't have TrackLogs. However, I did convert the file back from .trl to .gpx and the gpx file looks fine. This doesn't prove the the .trl files will work with TrackLogs, though, just that GPSBabel uses the same encoding system in both directions. The help manual for GPSBabel mentions binary and text .trl files. It may be worth looking at the trl files you have, and seeing if they look like they're binary (a lot of jibberish characters), or text (recognisable words and numbers).
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The Littlest Hobo Said. So do i have to download this babel software before i can convert my 2004 memory map files to gpx? Others have said that i can right click and save as but my version doesnt give that option and GPX is not a file type it is recognising. In V2 of tracklogs its file save as (.trl) then convert to GPX with Babel. it seems to upload OK. Haven't tried downloading a walk and converting the other way yet?
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Tracklogs (the latest version) does support GPX files but not the ones published on this site, why not?
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 GPX isn't a true standard, and there are a number of flavours of it. Maybe the flavour produced by this site isn't understood by Tracklogs... If they've only recently added GPX functionality to tracklogs, it's quite likely that it's immature. It may be interesting to put the GPX files from here into GoogleEarth, and see if that understands them. Or GPSBabel. Since GPX files are simply XML, it really shouldn't be rocket science to parse them.
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