 This guy who represented Cumbria council on Look North sounded like he was told by the CEO of the council to sort it out, i mean the bill? he sounded like he was saying they have been, and buggered off without paying.Given that the CEO of the council will have been warned off with the message "your bill is in the post" looks like a whip round might be needed.
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 when a footballer breaks a leg the bill is sent to the club who can then decide whether to claim from their insurers.
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 The same guy from Cumbria CC has just been on Border News and on Look North again - now I can understand how pathetic the county have been in 'supporting' the Mountain and Ultra Running Commonwealth Championships next year in Keswick. As a balance, what a lovely article from Richard Askwith in the Independant today, If I was clever I'd know how to do link
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on again tonite,the look North team must be camped out up there,licence payers paying the B&B same issue regarding liabilities in future, something about a contribution being paid to the MRT for their time, not sure if thats comming from omm organisers I get the feeling that any future events will have some new ground rules according to this council guy, oh and some nice snowy shots of the tops and a statement that the park is still open to play in.
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 It seams to me that alot of friends and relatives went through a worried night for no reason other than the press causing them to worry.
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 Some good has come out of all this! I was out walking with some guys today, seasoned walkers all three, and they'd never heard of the OMM (or KIMM) before the media started this whole wind-up. Now they've heard about it! Now they want to take part in it! I've given them the relevant details.
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Thank you Beth you're a star! Jules, the worst bit must have been the BBC calling it a charity run and saying something along the lines of 2500 stranded on a mountainside!
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 Some good has come out of all this! I was out walking with some guys today, seasoned walkers all three, and they'd never heard of the OMM (or KIMM) before the media started this whole wind-up. Now they've heard about it! Now they want to take part in it! I've given them the relevant details.
OMM sacks will probably be even harder to come by next year. And as for Innov8.... I bet they're hunched over the plans for their new manufacturing plant as we speak 
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It might be unfair of me to say this, but it's based on my observation of KIMM/OMM over the years. Anyway the competitors are, on the whole, not young folks are they? I mean, I've never seen a break-down into age groups, but I get the impression that the bulk of them are middle-aged. In other words, they've got heaps of experience behind them, and they're well aware of their limits. I'd be more worried if the event suddenly attracted hundreds of gap-year students... people who weren't fully aware of their stamina, ability or skills.
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 I'm sure quite a lot of the OMM's have/had their own insurance, from the likes of BMC or Fell Runner's Asscoition. Because of the different activties i do, like climbing, i take out my own insurance, to cover me for every thing i do. my BMC package covers me for anything up to 'graded' Alpine/Expedition. But in the UK, unlike most other countries, Police, SAR, MTR, are considered Public services or charties so are not able to recover any costs they might occur! so always give what you can to MRT, RNLI, etc. you neverr know when you might need them!! H
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 every-time I am out in the hills and return to civilistation I look for a MRT collection tin/box and put in a donation and say to myself thanks guys and girls I didn't need you today and hope I never will
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That is unfair Paddy, just cos we're grey and wrinkly! But its also possibly true as I'm still competing against some of the same people I raced against back in 1980 (my first KIMM), some would say I should know better by now. There are quite a lot of younger runners attracted each year often starting in 'C' class or one of the shorter score classes, but only if they have enough experience (all listed on the entry form). It seems to be the sense of adventure that is the main attraction. The recent Rab event did seem to have a lot more younger competitors - could that just be sort of 'brand' attraction?
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every-time I am out in the hills and return to civilistation I look for a MRT collection tin/box and put in a donation and say to myself thanks guys and girls I didn't need you today and hope I never will
Me too, but now I've joined Basecamp, it bothers me a bit less if I don't manage to find one.
Do it!!!
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That Askwith article is brilliant, by the way - thanks for posting.
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 Paddy: You cheeky swine I hope I'm not middle aged yet... But you are right, there are some seriously impressive sleek grey whippets out there. I have vivid meories of a year where we kept meeting a couple of guys who were easily over 50 at a whole slew of checkpoints despite the fact we were as fast as them uphill and twice as fast down and on the flat. They would hove out of the mist, punch their cards (OK it was a few years back now) and disappear again... we would run like hell past them, get a 500m lead, and then they would pop out of the mist in front of us walking swiftly but serenely up to the next checkpoint. They either had a Tardis or their nav skills were just better than anyone else I have met before or since... theysaid little but their smiles said much! Ben B
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Yeah, just read it , very well written. There are lots of people out there who will never understand why we want to do things that put us at risk. I dont ask them to if they dont want to, but I do want them to leave us alone to get on with it.
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Mmmm....... 'sleek grey whippets', thanks Ben I feel better now . There should be a combined article in this weeks Athletics Weekly from runners and administrators that should also balance the picture, then I hope we can get back to the normal non-interest in our quirky outdoor pursuits.
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If you want a demonstration of 'old fogies' versus 'young things', then go to a popular hill like Pendle Hill on a weekend. You'll see fit young folks, bursting with energy, dashing up the hill. Most of them will make it to the top, but quite a number will burn themselves out, get dispirited, and turn back before they're halfway up the thing. The old folks, meanwhile, just plod away, stop and admire the view, plod away some more, reach the summit, and never even have a bead of sweat on them. It's the 'dash and crash' approach versus the 'slow and steady' approach. But I love the 'sleek grey whippets' image! By the way, if you're thinking of heading for Pendle Hill this Hallowe'en, there's a traffic ban in place. So... no driving to the foot of the hill. You'll be expected to walk in... walk up the hill... and walk out... all in the dark. The idea is of course to control the louts who go there to spoil things for everyone else, but no-one will stop you climbing the hill if you're prepared to put in the appropriate distance on foot and do it 'properly'.
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 Hare and Tortoise.
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