 Thank for the emails this morning folks.
Some free samples are going out this afternoon and you never know, if Royal Mail does its stuff you may even get them tomorrow!
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 Not sure who else got one of pole extenders from Bob? What do you think? First impressions? It looks to be a cracking bit of kit, but unfortunately it doesn't fit my BD Trail poles
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 Hi folks I also recieved a wee surprise in the post Cheers Bob! First impressions are very good, I think the pole extender will do it's intended job well.
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I have a spare brand new groundsheet for teh shangrila 3 if anyone needs mine, couldn't cope with the leaks so sold mine and forgot about the bath tub groundsheet. Let me know offers etc
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.JPG) you need to turn your messaging on Stuart £20?
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 Okay for those of you wanting a bit more information about this extender pole there's now a video on YouTube and in The Outdoors Station video feed which is listed here. While you're there check out The StickPic. Such a simple fun lightweight gizmo which will change how you see yourself!!
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Hi everyone, Great thread with lots of good information. Somebody wanted a mesh only inner without having to make one. I use a Serenity Bug Net from Six Moon Designs in the US. It weighs 200g and fits the SL3 perfectly. I use the supplied elastic to clip to existing pegs for tension and stability. The net clips to the pole real easy. I don't understand why you guys need a pole extender if you have two poles- just tie them together!! One less thing to carry. Doing this in big winds has proved very stable. I've had my SL3 in some big storms above tree line in the Pyrenees, and only had a few drops come in through the vents- and no leaks, and I haven't seam sealed the tarp. A good DWR sleeping bag should see you through. You don't need a bivy for this type of tarp IMHO. My kit weighs 650g for the SL3 and 200g for the nest plus stakes- not bad for an above tree line bombproof shelter. When I camp lower, I use a Integral Designs 8x10 tarp, and the Bug net fits that too. Keep the great thread going, always something to learn. cheers, fred
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 Looks good As for using an extender, the main advantages for me are: Speed and ease of use - No matter how good you are with knots, tying poles together is a faff, and slower. Simple to adjust - Bit of fly sag during the night (oooerr), just lengthen the pole a fraction. Frees up the lower sections of the poles for more staking options on bad ground - stick the pole section through a tie out loop and put a couple of rocks on it.
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 Simple to adjust - Bit of fly sag during the night (oooerr), just lengthen the pole a fraction. Why not start with the pole already longer than needed, byt slightly sloping rather than absolutely vertical. Then you just have to move the base to make the pole more vertical to take up the sag.
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 Because an off plumb pole would drive the perfectionist in me insane, Frum. In fact I'm thinking of incorporating a spirit level bubble into the second generation Doobries
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 The 'rust free' 2nd generation?
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 Are you still harping on about that?  Get a brillo pad. It will double as a toupee, in true multi use SUL tradition
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 Sorry my mistake.... - 3rd generation - as the 1st one bent 
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 There were some minor faults with the prototypes, I admit  I blame the R&D team for being pished most of the time.
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.JPG) Hi Fredfoto - looks interesting - cheers Walking Poles with Velcro and a bit of cord with 2 loops (pre-tied) works ok for me, but I guess when really cold/pissing down could be a faff. My poles are 12mm so Bob's thingy won't work. Simple to adjust - Bit of fly sag during the night (oooerr), just lengthen the pole a fraction. Why not start with the pole already longer than needed, byt slightly sloping rather than absolutely vertical. Then you just have to move the base to make the pole more vertical to take up the sag.
Good point Frum - I shall try it. I generally repeg (if necessary) anyway before I turn in, once the fly has 'relaxed' I've done this with every nylon flysheeteded tent I've ever had - it's a habit
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hi fredfoto thinking of getting a hex3 soon does that bug net have a floor??? ta
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 Yes the Serenity Net has a floor.
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Hi Peter, Yes it has a floor, you can see it in the photo. Big enough for me and gear, and also has clips to tie out the middle sides to corresponding tie outs in the shelter to give you more room. cheers, fred
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