 Hi peoples, Does anyone have any thoughts on which pack they prefer on a 1-3day wild camp? It needs to fit a Terra Nova Laser, x2 change of underwear etc, fleece, pac-lite gortex shell, trangia, food, liquid, all the usual shizzle... Currently have a berghaus arete 45 & a bioFlex 65+10. The 65+10 is just wayyyyy too heavy even before I start to throw kit in it & the 45 is just a little too tight. I am willing to sell both these in order to upgrade. thanks
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 I can thoroughly recommend the GoLite Pinnacle, weighing only 680 g (2008 model, women's version in size M) it takes all that's needed for an even longer trip. The top of the main compartment can be rolled in and fixed with a compression strap, and the bottom can be "folded" in half and fixed with plastic clips, so it can be used as a small day pack as well. I am not sure if last year's model is still available, the new 2009 ones are slightly heavier because they have got a proper carrying system now (which is not necessary in my opinion)...
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Yeh I dig the GoLoite for the technology, but they just kinda look wierd to me... kinda like an astranaughts daypack!? Not sure about this 1... Hmmm... any others? Thanks again!
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 Just bought an OMM The Villian - the lighter weight of under 800g I had ignored, thinking you would have to savage the thing but it seems easily achievable. Gotta say am much impressed, off to Wales for the meet today so will check it out properly this weekend
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Not much to add, accept both the above recommendations are spot on!
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 Ditch the Trangia (not sure what size)and go for gas and burner and pot and that should free some space up and then the 45ltr sack should work. Pack your bag without it and see just what room is left and maybe take it along to a gear shop and try a gas setup. Just an idea!! Failing that take a look atone of these Haglofs Lim 45 the material is very stretchy so you can sqeeze bits in where needed. 
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The OMM MM55 is also very good, if you need a bit more space. But then so are quite a few others -- get what fits you best.
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Osprey exos 46 or the bigger 58 ? carries beautifully and available in different backlengths,expensive tho'.
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Got the Pinnacle 2009 model. Used on WHW in April. Cannot fault it, light, comfy, gets a lot of gear inside and out by adding bottom straps. A third the weight of my old Lowe Alpine bergen. You can't lose really at less than £100.
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 If I could justify getting another pack for this kind of thing it would be from ULA as they offer a great balance of weight, design, quality & price. Plus everyone I've heard that's tried one says they are fantastic to carry. However, I've got a Crux AK57 that takes 55-60 litres for 1.3kg of pack; strippable by another few hundred grammes I'd guess. So that's what I use as it's me that carries the extra bits!
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 Haglofs LIM 45. (depending on what weight you intend carrying) What's the maximum weight you intend to take, based on what you've said it could be anything from sub 10kg to 20kg which is going to make a difference to what pack you can use. A lightweight rucksack is intended to be used with a light load. Trying to use an Ultralight pack with a heavy load would be like trying to use bicycle tyres on a tractor.
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 Granite Gear Vapor Trail is great if you still want a comfortable back system but want a light sack. I have a Golite Pinnacle as well which is great for shorter trips but I prefer the Vapor Trail for longer trips and when I feel like a bit more comfort.
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Haglofs LIM55 - greater capacity and only 30g heavier. Get it from Outdoor Warehouse in Windermere and online for savings. Loverly black and green thing it is too. Alternatively get is in Sweden if you intend to go there as the krone exchange rate is favourable or if you know somone who might be going there anyway. Is it R_Mac or Diddy who is into Haglofs in a big way? They have what looks like service stations but they have a big signbn over the door saying HAGLOFS when I went there. I am sure I saw two of them but could be wrong and it was their factory shop. A potentially important customer is based up that way so if I get lucky might be able to pass and stop at it on a regular basis. Could be wearing head to toe haflofs by the end of the year. I like OMM sacks and it would be my choice as I think they are more durable than Haglofs LIM series. Haglofs do other sacks of course but you will struggle to get them. BTW take any advice you get from the OMM distributers directly with a pinch of salt. The MM55 can carry 35kg comfortable apparently. I doubt that very strongly.
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Is it R_Mac or Diddy who is into Haglofs in a big way?
Not guilty your honour, only bit of Haglofs I have is the LIM 45 
More of a Karrimor/Mountain Equipment person myself
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 what rmac said earlier. pack choice depends upon how much weight you carry. 9kg in an omm32 is hell. 9kg in a golite continuum 35l is heaven by comparison. the difference in comfort far outweighs the pack weight difference.
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 There are also those various packs that Lightwave (sister company to Crux but more for walkers not climbers iirc). They certainly seem to review very well & be light/built for big loads. For some reason they seem much harder to find in the flesh than Crux's sacks. Pretty odd really with them being aimed at a slightly more mainstream audience! Has anyone ever seen one in a shop? I wouldn't worry so much about the weight of 9kg in a 32 (thats not enough weight to really need huge weight transfer). Very likely enough bulk for it get bent rather (uncomfortably!) out of shape though.
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Last time I looked, there was still a couple of Lightwave packs at give-away prices direct from their site... If I was a batchelor... one would already be in my kit cupboard! ... and it'd probably be it a kit room!!!
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To actually answer the question I think the pinnacle must have the best volume to weight ratio. I don't have one but I expect to carry most of the weight on a good hip belt. I get the impression that the pinnacle does not have a good hip belt. I was recently looking for a smaller rucksack of about 40 litres, but to carry up to 20 Kilo. I looked at all the packs mentioned except the Osprey and the Vapour trail. I also looked at the Jam 2 but did not like the hip belt. I narrowed my choice down to the Villain which I tried at Outdoor Warehouse or a ULA Circuit or Ohm which would have had to have been bought unseen. In the end a second hand ULA circuit was offered on this site and I bought that. Having tried it, I think it has a much more sophisticated hip belt system than the Villain and is lighter at 900gram with its frame. I carried 20, or a little more, kilo in it and although that may be near its limit It was still comfortable. For wild camping with only a few days food you probably need only half that weight, perhaps then the quality of the hip belt does not matter so much. The circuit is sold as 60 litres but 40 litres is about the size of the main body. The rest is in a variety of outside pockets and a collar extension
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Is it R_Mac or Diddy who is into Haglofs in a big way?
Not guilty your honour, only bit of Haglofs I have is the LIM 45
More of a Karrimor/Mountain Equipment person myself
I do have some Berghaus waterproof troo's ya honour!! 
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 any pack by Gossamer Gear the mariposa is a fine sack
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