 I don't think it is the case Trev, dogs who attack are destroyed either by pre-agreement or under court order derived from the Dangerous Dogs Act, which is slightly different in perspective since there is no equivalent legislation covering cattle!
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  Sorry, was meant mostly to be a joke there my mate! Although I realise it could be a different case for a bull that has killed or injured someone like this.
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Yes, but you can see it now can't you. The farmer appealing against a destruction order only to send his beast to the abattoir a week later!
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The crux of the matter is that walkers with or without dogs, must engage common sense, and Dynamically risk assess the situation facing them, and decide accordingly.
You've been on one of those courses haven't you. A CoSHH report might be useful too.
Anyway, i've got my Hi-viz jacket and hard hat on, i'm off to make a cuppa.
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No you arent...you've forgotten your steel toecaps just in case you drop a hobnob...
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 I found the article regarding bulls and rights of way in Trail magazine, October 2005, p44-45. It says it is illegal to keep any of the following Dairy breeds over 10 months old in a field crossed by a RoW: Ayrshire, British Holstein, British Friesian, Dairy Shorthorn, Jersey, Kerry, Guernsey. It is legal to keep the following Beef Bulls in a field crossed by a RoW, provided they are accompanied by a herd of cows: Aberdeen Angus, Beef Shorthorn, Charolais, Hereford, Lincoln Red, South Devon, Welsh Black. I still don't have a dog.
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 I still don't have a dog. Neither do I! But I DO get chased by angry cows!!
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The crux of the matter is that walkers with or without dogs, must engage common sense, and Dynamically risk assess the situation facing them, and decide accordingly.
You've been on one of those courses haven't you. A CoSHH report might be useful too.
Anyway, i've got my Hi-viz jacket and hard hat on, i'm off to make a cuppa.
Nothing unusual these days, every time we are called to a patient needing our services we have to " dynamically risk assess" the situation before committing ourselves, a sign of the time I am afraid! 
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 Grendel - that last post is interesting, I never knew that. We often get Friesians (I'm assuming over 10 months old) with calves in my locality, in fields on ROW's. They go absolutely nuts when entering the field and I can see why it might be illegal. However, living in a non-tourist-y area that rarely gets trod, I always walk around rather than take issue. Not sure if the farmer knows he is breaking the law, or whether he has any other choice on where to keep his cows.
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Actually, Grendel has misquoted the law. The law refers to bulls and young males of certain breeds....not the females from The Ramblers 23. Can a farmer keep a bull in a field crossed by a public path? A bull of up to ten months old, yes. Bulls over ten months of a recognised dairy breed (Ayrshire, British Friesian, British Holstein, Dairy Shorthorn, Guernsey, Jersey and Kerry) are banned from fields crossed by public paths under all circumstances. All other bulls over ten months are banned unless accompanied by cows or heifers. If any bulls act in a way which endangers the public, an offence may be committed under health and safety legislation. From Tameside Council Bulls, Dogs and Other Animals on Public Rights of Way Bulls Section 59 of the WCA 1981 makes it an offence, subject to important exceptions, for the occupier of a field crossed by a right of way to cause or allow a bull to be at large in it. The exceptions are: - bulls not more than ten months old; and
- bulls which are not of a recognised dairy breed and which are at large with cows or heifers.
Dairy breeds are: Ayrshire, British Friesian, British Holstein, Dairy Shorthorn, Guernsey, Jersey, Kerry.
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Animals in general Section 2 of the Animals Act 1971 makes the keeper of an animal liable for damages if it injures another person provided that the keeper was aware of the animal's tendency to cause injury. origional source This is the leglislation that is of interest here...and you will note it stems from1971!
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So an attack by the pet budgie might be a bit of a difficult case to prove then? Seriously though, there are no pieces of legislation that can give a destruction order after an event other than the DDA in the case of dogs.
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 I read someplace last year that there are sadly far more attacks each year on horses and cows by humans than by animals on people! I always think that those horse ripper types are really frighteningly scary nutters!
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Yes in the case of cows it is a man dressed in white overalls with a captive bolt driven by compressed air. It's all relative though isn't it. Who was it who said that you can judge a society by the way it treats it's animals? Ghandi I believe?
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Actually, Grendel has misquoted the law. The law refers to bulls and young males of certain breeds....not the females
I did write;
I found the article regarding bulls and rights of way in Trail magazine, although using the word breeds later probably confused it. Thanks for finding the actual law on it.
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 I'd point you to a link to the W&CA 1981 on DEFRA's website, as pointed to here, but it looks like DEFRA's little obfuscation elves have been at work; a search of the DEFRA website finds the PDF, but clicking on it reports 'Error 404'. webmaster has been informed...
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This Saturday in Cardiff.................................BBC Wales News:- Cattle 'trample woman to death' A 63-year-old woman has died after she is thought to have been trampled by cattle in a field, police say. The woman had been walking dogs with another woman across the field close to the entrance of the National History Museum at St Fagans, Cardiff. The incident happened at around 1615 BST on Saturday. Police said they were not using a footpath. The Health and Safety Executive (HSE) and the coroner have been informed. The woman is thought to be local. The field in which the woman died is adjacent to the A4232, one of the major routes into the capital. Ch Insp Alun Morgan, who is based in Fairwater police station in Cardiff, said: "There are no suspicious circumstances and this appears to be a tragic accident. "Our thoughts are with the lady's family, who have been informed."
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 Quite honestly... you'd think all this business about bulls would be pretty clear by now. I mean, from the dimmest reaches of prehistory, humans have been keeping cattle. If you want a written record of some early laws dealing with bulls, check Exodus 21 v28-32... If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit. But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death. If there be laid on him a sum of money, then he shall give for the ransom of his life whatsoever is laid upon him. Whether he have gored a son, or have gored a daughter, according to this judgment shall it be done unto him. If the ox shall push a manservant or a maidservant; he shall give unto their master thirty shekels of silver, and the ox shall be stoned. (King James Version - since it's copyright free!)
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 but did they have dogs with them?
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