 Is ordering the Scarp 1 from the US the only way to get this tent? And is it direct from Tarp Tents still @ £225.00 all in? Does that include the UK spec fly? Was mulling over a MSR Hubba HP (Green?) or a Big Agnes Copper Spur UL1 when i saw this thread... Are the porches big enough to cook in? Would prefer not to go for the LC due to reasons everyone else seems to specify. Cheers
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"Is ordering the Scarp 1 from the US the only way to get this tent? yes And is it direct from Tarp Tents still @ £225.00 all in?Depends on the exchange rate (you are buying in US $) and exactly if and how much Custom will charge Does that include the UK spec fly?"It is only produced with the UK fly now. Are the porches big enough to cook in? Largely depends on what you use. With a self contained system like the Trangia/Jetboil or Caldera Cone I think so. You can increase the cooking area by unclipping the first (and second if you like) apex attachment points and the side ones (if you need to) so as to be able to push the floor back. Well, you can uncip the lot , the inner just hangs on the fly. In this picture I have unclipped the first two clips at the top : I am sitting about 1m away from the pole (ignore the trekking pole..) Franco franco@tarptent.com
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Thanks Franco thats really helpful, the porch size looks fine for a pocket rocket (was just a bit concerned there was 2 really small porches as opposed to one decent size one) The MSR Hubba HP is the easy option being available in the UK, i'm looking at 1 person less than 1.5 kg with a decent amount of room less than £250.00 ish. Anyone think these are better than a Scarp1: New Laser Copper Spur UL1 Hubba HP Any other? Appreciate its personal preference but i am interested in opinions as its hard to see these in the flesh. Cheers
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 Well I have a MSR Hubba HP green fly which I was lucky enough to pick up in a sale for £190 and it is an excellent little tent. Positives: Inner pitches nice and taut giving a feeling of more space due Inner pitch first. Weight = 1.3kg Good sized porch - big enough for careful cooking Feels well made Pole runs length of tent rather than width ways, which is generally better for tall people(im 6'4") as it keeps fabric away from face/ feet. I can sit up in it Negatives: The inner is slim width ways (70cm), although this does not bother me. Some people won't like that it pitches Inner first Fly sits relatively high from the ground. Not as high as the plain Hubba but still higher than most UK designed tents. I have not seen a Scarp 1 in person so cannot compare but it was one of the other tents I was looking at when I was buying a new tent. In the end the faff (or lack of knowledge of what it involved) of importing from the US swung it for me - and also the fact that I saw the MSR at a bargain price. No regrets
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Well I have a MSR Hubba HP green fly which I was lucky enough to pick up in a sale for £190 and it is an excellent little tent. Fly sits relatively high from the ground. Not as high as the plain Hubba but still higher than most UK designed tents.
Thats a fairly impressive price, its not online by any chance?
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Was from Outdoor Gear but the Hubba HP has returned to its normal price. I ordered it assuming it would be the last of the 2009 yellow HPs, but when it turned up I happily suprised to find they had sent out a Green Fly one  happy days! The Hubba Hubba HP is still at its sale price of £230 which is a bit of a bargain!
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The Scarp is fine with a small burner such as a primus micron Ti or pocket rocket, two porches means that you can organise your gear more effectively, using one side for shoes / boots n' wet gear, whilst retaining the other side clear for cooking. The porch door can be vented with the zip undone and a buckle attachment at the base, and the new - low cut fly may give some additional space . I recently made a transition from an Akto, so was quite sensitive to the porch space after such luxury, no problems so far.
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 Just got back from first trip out with Scarp 1 . Used to have a Laser Comp, big difference is space!. I did'nt know where to put all my gear, there were so many options, I got my pack in the inner with all my camera bits clothing etc, one porch for boots and getting in and out and one porch for cooking. I was using an Optimus Crux Lite stove with a Titan Kettle and I had more than enough room to cook safely, you can also pull the inner back a bit with a tent peg if you need more room. It was a very simple to pitch and easy to readjust. I was camped at 800 metres and didnt take the crossing poles, just added a couple of guylines to the pole , it was a bit blowy at times but it didnt shift much at all, I need to remove the straps for the crossing poles as they were noisy against the fly in the wind, but apart from that It was a much more enjoyable experience than it used to be in the flapping Comp! I think I paid about £250 in all including crossing poles, customs duty and parcel force handling fee. I really rate this tent and I don't mind carrying another few hundred grams for a secure nights sleep. Ps this is the 2010 'UK fly' version.
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 Sounds good Richard. Users seem to really rate the Scarp. It's good to get the first stormy night done with a new shelter.
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 Question: the Akto is generally reckoned to be pretty good at handling wind. Is the Scarp without the extra poles as good? Does it only really need the extra poles for hurricanes and bearing a load of snow without collapsing?
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Yes Mike there was a fair amount of buffeting wind and then I awoke to frost on the fly, I think I managed to reduce condensation quite a bit using the high vents and the 2 doors slightly open, it really is a very well thought out tent. BTW I was camped at the col just west of Dreish where the Kilbo path comes over, it was tough to find somewhere to get the tent pegs in and find water, theres still a hell of a lot of snow up there, I had a great afternoon on Dreish and Mayar, first time up there for me very impressed.
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I' ve never used an Akto but seen a few in the wind, from my limited experience with the Scarp I would say I think they are comparable without the crossing poles. I ve put up my Scarp with the crossing poles in the garden and it does seem very strong.
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Thanks Richard. That was my guess just from looking at pictures.
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That's a regular camp spot for me Richard when i'm testing new kit! My 'back yard' so to speak. Did you pitch near the old sign-post next to the big boulder? That boulder is my usual cooking table and chair. 
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I think I paid about £250 in all including crossing poles, customs duty and parcel force handling fee.
Thats interesting to know. The price of the tent on the website is $295.00 and the extra poles are $30.00. Assuming about $40 for P&Pand stick another 30% on for VAT and handling fees, i was expecting this to equate to over £300.00. I can stretch to £250 but i would kick myself if i ordered this tent and then found the final outlay was £300+
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 mine came in at £230 last summer
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Mike I pitched just on the s/w side of the col it was the only patch of ground I could get the pegs in! I tried to find somewhere on Mayar but it was a no go, too frozen. I went up the Scorrie and over Dreish first then over to Mayar, the views were arctic looking north. El Manana, I don,t think you will end up paying over £300, from what others have said it seems to be on average about £250 depending on exchange rates etc.
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I think the exchange rates may have scuppered me a bit - its hovering at $1.45 to the £ at the moment, back in November when a lot of these prices were quoted it was above $1.65. Makes quite a difference, i reckon without the extra poles it will cost £225 plus import duties etc so i reckon £250 being optimistic. Add another £20 if i want the extra poles.
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The difference with the Scarp over the other 1 person tents out there of similar quality is that you are getting the stabilty and light weight performance of say an Akto with the 1 pole configuration and something much stronger like say a SL Voyager or Hilleberg Soulo when using the crossing poles. I was going to buy a SL Voyager but when I read the review in TGO the tested weight was 1.6kg I then figured I would have to buy 12 proper tent pegs which would knock it up to maybe 1.7kg, the Scarp with just the one one pole and a couple of guys and 2 extra pegs is about 1.35kg and with the extra poles the weight is about 1.7kg, for me it just seemed like a good versatile tent with the 2 porches and good ventilation options. I did a lot of homework and considered the Hubba HP, Copper Spur UL1 and the Macpac Microlight, but Im really happy with the Scarp it fixes the problems ive had with solo tents up to now which were poor stability, lack of ventilation and cramped living space in prolonged bad weather.
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 Great thread. I have an Akto which is a great tent, but...it is a tad on the heavy side (1.52kg) and the lack of headroom, particularly at the ends is slightly annoying (especially when it's wet with condensation). So, I was looking at alternatives and found this thread. Looks like the Scarp1 is a very strong contender. It is lighter that the Akto (without extra poles) and has more headroom. Does anyone know how much more at the *ends*? I cannot find this out from the product websites. The other possibility I am looking at is the Copper Sput UL1, which looks a tad smaller than the Scarp1 but with steeper ends. Looking at the dimensions of the Scarp1 I wonder if this is almost a *2* man tent...luxury indeed compared to the Akto (which i'll be selling if anyone is interested )
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