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julian brown 2
05/03/10 22:01
 Lowland rambler 293 forum posts

Hello, just opened the latest yeomans newsletter and they have a 2 man 1.7kg, 105cm high, 1500mm groundsheet, and a half decent porch for £40!!

http://www.yeomansoutdoors.co.uk/products/tents/peakland-tents/peakland-eyam-200.aspx?utm_source=springtents&utm_medium=email

So anyone ever seen one? Is it worth a punt?

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TP
05/03/10 22:14

It looks an interesting shape. Vango does the gothic arch thing too.

Half decent size, cheap, a good weight for a two person tent and a very low HH of 1500mm. Officially 1000mm HH can be classed as waterproof since it copes with water pressure hitting it equivalent to 1000mm water collumn. This is higher than the absolute minimum but not by much. I think HH has been discussed elsewhere on this forum in some depth. IIRC it was concluded that 1000mm HH could be overwhelmed in stormy wind driven rain. I could be wrong.

IMHO I would not touch a tent with that low a value for the HH unless I had to. At £40 it is not really that cheap. Take the vango banshee tent for example, it has a higher HH and is well made yet can be found for £60. It is also 2kg total weight. perhaps that is worth a punt but I would not go for this one myself.  It should work well for 3 season use in all but the worst conditions. If for example you have a few days of rain while camping in it you might want to decamp to a hostel as you probably would have had enough. That is probably about £13 pppn or £26 for two people. That puts you into the banshee's price range.

Just my thoughts. Having said that one tent I own is a £8 argos 2 man tent bought when I left my tent at home for a valley camp one novemberl I spent one night in it and never got it out of the bag again, not even to dry it. It had poor venting so condensation was worse than my Force10 single skin tent. It was a wet night but it was particularly bad. It was still cheaper than a hostel for a night and I had to get it as there was an organised event so most accommodation was taken and I had no other place to stay.

Up to you of course.

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julian brown 2
05/03/10 22:24
 Lowland rambler 293 forum posts

Got the old style Banshee, and like it alot. Just seeing if I could knock 300g off my baseweight for £40. Alot cheaper than any of the other options available to me.

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Metric Kate
19/03/10 18:13
Well, as long as it isn't flat or drowned in the morning, twiglegs, I'd say you've got yourself a bargain there!
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captain paranoia
19/03/10 18:21

> Went up easily fly first so can be used fly only, there is rather a large gap all way round though.

Doesn't look that big a gap between fly and ground.  5cm is perfectly normal.

It looks like the groundsheet is woven, coated polythene.  Is that right?  Would be typical of cheap tent.

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Mole
19/03/10 19:00

 woven coated polythene

cheap and waterproof -used tents for years like this - they don't let water through like pu coated nylon can.

Looks reasonable if looked after - the poles are usually the weak spot on cheaper tents.  I have fixed a few split fibreglass poles with duct tape and a bent steel tent peg splint - often the repairs have lasted years.

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Mole
19/03/10 19:02
twiglegs wrote (see)
Yaaay, it's just started raining.

just!!!

i've had wet pants the last 2 afternoons   been hissing down since 2 pm yesterday.

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GOF
19/03/10 19:06
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i've had wet pants the last 2 afternoons  
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Mole
19/03/10 19:16
forgot overtroos yesterday, and found that the seams in the ones I remembered today are no longer waterproof!
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GOF
19/03/10 19:41

thats a good story.....

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Lee Robert
20/03/10 10:10
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hhmm that really doesn't look bad at all, I wouldnt bother waiting for rain.. seam seal anyway and get the hose on it the day after.. Ive seen those fibreglass poles before, and yes they are cheap and heavy but I've found them to be very durable.. this was on a large family sized tent, how much insanely heavy fabric 1 pole was holding up at one point whilst someone else was tugging at the other side is a testament to them. Have you weighed this tent? that listed weight seems very low.

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Mike fae Dundee
20/03/10 15:35
If the fly is wetting out, it will be a heavy tent to backpack with. Not a problem if you're car camping though.
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Mike fae Dundee
20/03/10 16:09

Looks like a nice tent for the price.

You'll never get your Lizards Scrotum if you keep on buying other tents though, Twiglegs!

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R_Mac
20/03/10 16:54
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That's around the same weight and rrp as the Argos Hike-Lite but has the advantages of being bigger, pitching fly 1st and being less conspicuous.

Any chance you could provide the individual weights of inner and fly?

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bailout
20/03/10 22:30
 Hill-walking hero 119 forum posts

What is the height like at the front? Can you sit up comfortably there to use the porch to cook?

You say the poles are solid fibreglass. Does that mean there is no elastic through them? I have a peapod with solid fibreglass poles like that. They are a pain to use because they can fall apart when threading through the pole sleeves but they are actually quite strong.

If it is wetting out on the outside of the fabric a waterproof spray would probably fix that.

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captain paranoia
22/03/10 13:14

Ah, I was looking in Blacks at the weekend, and their Octane 2 is a very similar design, but the quoted weight was higher (2.3kg)

That was about the only spec it did quote; nothing on the materials used in any of the blurb lying around, and the gormless assistant could only tell me that the tent I had in my hand was the same as the one I was looking at in their advert panel.  Yes, I can read 'Octane 2' on curved surfaces...

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Cantab
22/03/10 20:04
 Lowland rambler 215 forum posts 33 photos 3 reviews
Similar to the "eurohike backpacker tent" too. Not amazing, but could be worse for the money!
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julian brown 2
23/03/10 12:55
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Ah thanks for looking into that Twiglegs. I knew it sounded too good to be true! I've got my Banshee down to 1.8kg so I'll stick with that. Do kinda wish I had the new fly first pitching Banshee, but I got mine for £60 against the £100 for a new banshee.
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Shed Dweller
23/03/10 13:31
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Am I being a bit dim?  The link supplied by the OP shows the tent's weight as 2.6kg not 1.7.
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Metric Kate
23/03/10 13:35
Yeomans changed the information on their website yesterday. I wonder if they've bothered getting back in touch with Twiglegs yet.
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