These Roc packs had better be good. I'm still mourning the demise of the Ascent series, my Ascent 38 has simply got the best carry of anything I've tried, ever. Haglofs backpacks would look to be severely underrated - based on that and my Ace M, at any rate. Not completely sold on the whole stretch pro shell idea. We had one from TNF in the store over the winter. It wasn't a great jacket, no doubt Haglofs have done a lot better with the hood and the cut (slimmer so you might actually notice the stretch), but the real problem is that the fairly minimal stretch doesn't really justify the price, which is stratospheric. Lizard top looks gorgeous. I want one. In the blue.
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 It's a sad day when outdoor gear is described as 'gorgeous'. I seem to have turned into an old fart.
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Shouldn't that be 'ho-feckin-ho'! 
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 I quite liked the sound of those boots until I saw the price and fell off my chair Ho feckin' ho, indeedy.
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Be fair. The boots are made from Superfeckinfabric, and the rand is Smartfeckinlite. (If the fabric really was Superfeckinfabric, why does it need a Smartfeckinlite rand to protect it?) (And since nearly all the boot is Smartfeckinlite rubber rand, what's the point of a goretex liner?)
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 FFS, stop fecking on this thread!
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woops .. thought this was the gimmicky crap thread.
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 I quite liked the sound of those boots until I saw the price and fell off my chair Ho feckin' ho, indeedy.
How Furkin much  ...... . Would love to try the Ratio jacket on tho,just for the feel  
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I'd prefer Mrs Diddy to try it on for a feel 
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 I see Haglofs have made an Crux AK37 400g heavier
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 I was going to make some observations about the Gryms and Lizard I've been testing, but I see it's all gone in another direction
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Oh, go on, ptc. Pweeeease Seriously though, I'd like to hear what someone who's tested them thinks. They do sound good, but I still can't get my head around that price tag.
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Quickie then, much lighter than they look, sole grips like velcro, great with strap-on crampons, enough flex in the upper and at the toe for easy-ish walking. Great non-technical winter boot. The Lizard is just genius. We had a good debate on my blog about the possibility of it being pointless, but it turns out it's actually one of the most versatile bits of kit I've got. One of the other current threads has someone talking about the industry being in a holding pattern, but all the kit I'm seeing for the next few seasons shows a lot of the brands launching themselves forward with some clever and ever more technical designs. I think this is a great time for gear.
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 The Grymms are slightly bizarre in that you look at them and think 'heavy mountain boot' then pick them up and realise that they are way lighter than you think - as ptc says - if you're someone who wants a stiff-ish traditional boot but considerably lighter than it ought to be, then they're on the button. But yes, they are very expensive. The Ratio is a really nice jacket, but I'd find it very hard to justify the extra expense over, say, a Spitz because the stretch isn't functionally a massive move forward ime of using one. Then again, it's an extremely nice shell that does what it's designed to very well.
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