Thought it would appeal to you JJ :-o)

No Camo for Cara-lynn though, oh well!! ;-o)

I made my own years ago....but still have not perfected writing in the snow..

Being a "typical" bloke who only has to worry that I unzip "downwind" and that a Catholic Girls school outing doesn't suddenly appear, I am genuinely curious as to the use of these things and had a sly "peek" at one on the website.


Are these things intended to be "worn" on the whole journey, because they look incredibly uncomfortable?

Are they really that much better than finding a convenient "bush" (no smut please) unless of course, you are walking in sub zero temperatures where dropping the proverbial might be "inconvenient."

There are no bushes where I walk - and imagine the faff of what you have to do to have a poo and the indignity of being discovered - we have to do that for every single pee.

After years of peeing in the outdoors I have to admit that I'm less scared of "droppin' 'em" these days like I used to be as a teenager.

In wintery conditions, the thoughts of removing overtrousers, trousers, untucking tops, unzipping coat so you can lift it out of way etc etc...never mind freezing to death...I tend to hold it and be ruddy uncomfortable while Bob can just pee freely....

Yes, they really DO sound that more convenient - as a chap, you have no idea. It's a bit like Period Pains; unless you really suffer (and even some women seem to have few problems and think others are making it up) you have no idea.

Hang on JJ,

Of course I have "suffered" greatly from the "time of the month" and do have an idea, I have a wife and THREE grown up daughters!!!! ;-)


You still have not answered my first question though, are these things intended to be worn for a whole journey and if so are they not "uncomfortable," or are they intended to "slip in" at times of need to instantly convert female to male for the event "in hand?????"

All very interesting, I must investigate these contraptions further.

Another option to avoid baring all to the elements and/ or any onlookers is women's base layer bottoms with a crotch zip. I think arcteryx make them but probably v. expensive. Does anyone know of other brands that have the same feature?

Tony - they are meant as a temporal transit device.

Just while you're peeing then lol....

Base payers with a zip sound scratchy. Anyway - think of all the bits to remove to get to the base? I wish i had Bob's plumbing when we're out of doors <sigh>

Oh,

so they are not like the "snipers" kit and unlike them not intended for wearing on a semi permanent business.

So you girls will still need a degree of privacy to use this contraption.

I had to know you see, I had visions of walking with female companions who would suddenly stop, sigh heavily whilst looking skwards, and in the meantime a puddle forming around thier boot! (left or right!)

Many moons ago, I suggested making your own from a pop bottle (as so many of my 'recycled ideas' are...). It can be tailored to your personal bodyform. It was pointed out that the edges might be a bit sharp, but this could be cured by carefully warming the edges in a flame until they roll/bead up. Although my intention was more for in-tent use with a pee bottle.

"It can be tailored to your personal bodyform" - erm...

What can - C'tains plastic bottle?

Good idea with the melting lips though !!

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There's a new model coming out soon called the Paula Radcliffe. It's very lightweight and simple to use

.......... and you can use it anywhere there isn't a bush....