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Tried some more Rab & Montane for sizing.

The Rab... the zips..... quite stiff - they improve with use but then does that weaken their water-resistance?

Montane, what weird shape models they using, they seem to only do for tall fat blocks or shorter ones with no chest, and they seem to use different models for each range.

eVent - is noisy! Had hood up and making typical movements was stiff noisy, I assume improves with wear? 

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Rab Drillium arrived today.

Impressed with the hood, a high collar with a roll-away which folds neatly into the high collar, so when unrolled produces quite shield to face-on rain as what gets in the sides will tend to drain over the collar and out the front and not much rain will get inside the collar.

 Pockets could borrow some ideas from Paramo Torres, I mean ones which pull-up to open so you can make a lower-down smaller opening to maximise hand-warming, the Rab solution seems to be seeking to retain contents of pockets.

It does roll into an internal stuff pocket, but not elegantly so.

Damn noisy, like all event, but not as stiff as Montane eVent I'd say.

A medium sized fitted me - Rab seem to take it onto themselves to change the cut to fit the role, I got a Rab Quantum Windtop in medium, typed you use over baselayer for lightweight windproof, and its tight and short sleeves, but the Rab Drillium has sleeves much longer and room underneath for meaty fleece if I wanted to. 

 So that now completes my upper-body damp-weather solution:

  • Param Velez for cold
  • Montane Prism for cool, with Rab Drillium packed for waterproof
  • Rab Drillium for warm
  • Outdoor Designs Topptur Light for cycling-specific hood which turns with my head to convert the above hiking-specific into a cycling solution.


My lower-body solution isn't yet solved. Have Paramo Cascada for cold+wet, but too-warm problem to solve.

 Paramo is absolutely brilliant in current wet/cold weather, and actually is quite cost-effective, you're talking around £80-£100 each for trousers/jacket each with insulation and total waterproofing. For all other solutions you lose some insulation or waterproofing and often pay same/more. Paramo's list-price is high, and shame some flexibility of colour and some patience to wait on specific sizing is required. I think the idea of a warm  jacket/trouser with long vents is a good idea, better idea than separating waterproofing from insulation as the vents on the Velez/Cascada really do get cold air to skin when you want it.

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the value is even better when you consider price/number of times worn.
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Indeed, actually Rab Drillim costs more than Paramo Velez if you compare best-price with best-price, the Velez will get worn more times and last longer I suspect, but what am I to do - Velez is not a solution to all seasons, not unless I pack a few more Litres of water.

Cycling, slightly cheaky, will have an eVent cap dribbling into a Velez which will pump out what finds its way into the neck, I found in full-on rain the Velez hood too keen to stay pointing forward and one-eyed cycling is dangerous. Will probably keep the Velez' hood rolled in for when stopped and needing better insulation than a cap.

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I don't know if you considered it but what about the Cioch Glamaig. It uses the Paramo type pump liner system but is nearly half the weight of the Velez and would not be as warm in summer I would have thought.

http://www.cioch-direct.co.uk/waterproofs/glamaig.html 


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