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OutdoorDesigns Toppturlite vs Paramo Cap
 
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Nigel Healy
05/01/08 12:16
 Alpine newbie 1717 forum posts 2 photos 12 reviews

Does anyone have any experience with the Outdoor Designs Toppturlite vs the Paramo Cap?

They're both retailing about £20 

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Parky Again
05/01/08 13:33
it looks like the lowe alpine mountain cap; which is  considerably warmer than the paramo cap, probably due to to the lack of air transfer. the paramo cap has a much better peak (keeps the rain off my glasses)
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Graeme Cogger 2
05/01/08 13:44
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Are you wanting less insulation or more? Berghaus do a similar item in unlined Paclite, which is about as low in insulation as you can get. I own one so I can apply the same layering approach to my head as to anywhere else
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Nigel Healy
05/01/08 13:59
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Wanting less insulation, can layer (e.g. with Buff in beanie mode) as required. The context is really I find cycling with jacket hoods constrains my vision, I can see if I look behind me but with just 1 eye or I must pull hood with a finger to see with 2 eyes. In the rain in summer I often have to wear a cap to keep the glasses reasonably clear but even then may have to peer over the glasses under the peak to get a clear vision (glasses to keep crap out of eyes, not for focus). The Velez hood is ok for walking but annoying me for cycling, and I'm looking for unlined for warm+wet with tight collar on a hoodless jacket.

Paramo Cap is my default decision, tried one on in Ultimate Outdoors, but exploring alternatives, the Outdoor Designs model is eVent but is lined.

Note: Outdoor Designs do a more warmer lined I'm looking at the thinner model.

Graeme - how sweat is your Berghaus Paclite cap? 

Any advise appreciated. 

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Nigel Healy
05/01/08 21:11
 Alpine newbie 1717 forum posts 2 photos 12 reviews

I went to WWD, tried on the Paramo Cap. It's not suitable for cycling, there is no ability to pull the peak up and keep it up, so you can see whilst cycling in a natural haunched positioned. If there was an adjuster (like on the Velez's hood) to pull the front up, it might be perfect solution. Without the weight of the peak and fabric pushing back would tend to make it drop back down.

Sounds like the Marmot Precip?

For the record, the Paramo Cap, the medium is extremely tight, the large is ok, is a snugfit all the way around, doesn't feel too warm (good).

Looks perfectly ok for walking, a good method to keep rain off glasses (presumably why Parky has one?).

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Graeme Cogger 2
06/01/08 12:33
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Nigel,

I'm confused. Even the light version you linked is not unlined - it states "with a low bulk Bemberg lining adding warmth and comfort". The Paclite cap is completely unlined. It can be a little sweaty for that reason, but I don't generally notice until I remove it when I can see the condensation. The headband is, of course, a softer fabric and that's what mostly contacts your head. I get less warm and sweaty using this than any lined version simply due to the reduced insulation. Unfortunately, I don't recall where I bought it - probably somewhere in Ambleside, or maybe Keswick

Hope that helps,

Graeme

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Nigel Healy
06/01/08 14:12
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Following finding the Paramo Cap unsuitable, gone and bought an OutdoorDesigns Topptur Light for £14.

I'll look out for a Paclite baseball cap in the spring for the summer months, problem right now in January is there's practically nil summer stuff on any shelfs to try on. Right now I've only seen the warmer Berghaus Paclite cap so opted for lined eVent over lined Paclite.

I'll look around Ambleside in the spring, for the summer unlined Berghaus Paclite, thanks for the pointers.

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Nigel Healy
09/01/08 20:28
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Outdoor Designs Toppture Light arrived today. It's just wanted I wanted, a cool weather cycling cap which rolls up small with an adjustable peak. Actually I think the Paramo is better from a waterproof/breathable perspective but a rigid peak means you'd get neckache wearing it on a bike.

 Good adjustable rear velcro to make tight against headwind. In "large" there is sufficient slack to fit a thin warmer underneath to add a season (probably a buff). The insulation is very thin, I think as light a lined waterproof as you can get.

Will still look out for a Paclite peakcap for the warmest wet season 

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Nigel Healy
19/02/09 00:29
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Well I owned the Outdoor Designs cap for a year and it's been used only about 4 times, as in general I've been in dry climates. The Topptur, either leaks or it's aerodynamics means it sucks in water under the pathetic peak. Net results is you have water streaming down face and wet hair near the front.

 Rubbish!

 I did spend some time in the Paramo store a year ago, and was concerned with the peak of the Paramo cap being too low to see when cycling, but I think reliable old Paramo would have been a better choice. My requirements are still for cycling when I wish to be able to turn my head freely and see clearly in all directions, when a jacket hood doesn't work.

 Hello from the generally very dry California but had a few days of heavy rain and it poured it down on me whilst cycling home yesterday.

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Nigel Healy
23/02/09 06:25
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Nigel Healy wrote (see)

Well I owned the Outdoor Designs cap for a year and it's been 

Rubbish!


I run this cap under the tap to find if a leak, it doesn't have one. The issue is the peak is too short and floppy, it lifts up in the wind too easily and water runs under the peak and then gets to the wicking liner which then sucks up. Pretty much a dumb design for anyhing other than standing in straight-down rain. The fabric works ok, so I'll invent something to support the peak.

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