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A synthetic sleeping bag that is light and packs down small and has a comfort rating of -10 and does not cost the earth any ideas welcome

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I have a ME moonwalker -12 rater synthetic bag, its pretty much as good as it will get for a synthetic bag, but it certainly doesent pack small or particularly light, and it does cost a lot too, I think you might be on to a bit of a looser with those specifications I'm afraid.

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light and small pack size, -10 rating, cheap.

i think you'll have to perm any 2 from 3.

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Get the bag you think best fits the bill, then because it still won't be good enough, add a Blizzard bag as a vapour barrier liner.
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I would probably look at a down bag for those kinds of specs. I honestly believe you can manage with a down bag even in our damp climes if your carefull. Maybe something from alpkit?

If it has to be synthetic for allergy reasons well then thats a different matter altogether.

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Mathew,

I think your best bet is the Snugpak softie chrysalis winter,

-10, 1950grams,  about £70.....but snugpak are a bit optimistic with the temperature ratings.

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Thats pretty heavy too, and wont pack small
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Just got an Alpkit Skyehigh 800 - £95, about 1.4kg ( I think ), not that small packed admittedly. Only used it a couple of times, but really warm - I'd be happy at -10 in it. Can't complain at that price either.
When backpacking or Wild Camping I use my Alpkit PipeDream and then also carry a Rab Survival Zone Bivi Bag too.  This combination of sleeping bag and bivi bag works really well as if I get too cold then I get the bivi bag out and it adds massive amount of warmth to the bag. This is extremely versitile as you use the bivi or survival bag on dya walks as your emergency shelter or incase of emergencies and then when you go camping you can use it as a sleeping bag cover to add extra warmth, and its something you might have already carried anyway. If I had to buy a sleeping system today I would go for an Alpkit Pipedream or similar spec and an Alpkit Hunka bivi bag or similar and use the two together when required and when not use the bivi bag as a survival bag as they are light and fit in the bottom of any pack.
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Jamie thats exactly the same combo I've got. A PD 600 and a Rab survival zone.

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I would go with a snugpak 'premier' rather than any of their other bags. 

They pack smaller and are lighter and the 'premier 4' will keep you warm all year round even when it gets well below freezing...  I have two of these bags.  Not light and not cheap but you can get in them with wet clothes and wake up dry

Great for bivy style camping... I have even used mine on it's own without a cover or tarp!

The premier range are very high quality, dare I say the best symnthetic bags I have tried.

The life span of the synthetic bags is not as long as a down bag though maybe 3 years heavy use.  Mine is 4 years old and has had lots of abuse and is still ok but not as warm as my wifes bag of the same age but far less use. 

Down bags work ok in this country so long as you are not careless with them.  They can noticably loose loft on long trips when it is repeatedly damp and you can't air them properly.  Not a problem for weekend camping.

Aye mines a PD600 too BBF. I see ME have done a bivi bag called the Ion which is much lighter and you can get it for £60 here. Looks good. Matthew, from my experiences I've found Snugpack to be a little overrating on there temperature ratings, Mountain Equipments Firewalker II bags are quite good for price and go down to -7 and pack fairly well, the can always be found on special offer somewhere and go down as cheap as £35 sometimes.


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