Holy smoke! You're on fire tonight with the woodburning links Trevor!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vXY9ucKLyAc&feature=related  Hey, and don't go forgetting the excellent BUSH BUDDY STOVE either there!

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Was slow at work today, so had ago at making one myself out of some Titanium

How do you find titanium to work with, compared with, say steel?  The reason I ask is that you obviously work with the stuff, and my limited experience is that it's pretty hard to bend, and a fairly hard material (depending on alloy, obviously).  The question arose on UKC as to whether Ti was suitable for crampons, and some argued that it was soft, and would wear down too easily, which isn't my experience; it's certainly harder than aluminium, hence the thin-walled Ti cookwear that doesn't scratch anywhere near as easily as aluminium.  Whether it's as wear-resistant as grades of steel used for crapmons is a different matter...

http://www.woodlandedge.co.uk/firebox.html  I noticed yesterday again that some of the stove models we have talked about seem now to fall into the termed sub-category for stoves of a fire-box; which is a little bit off the hiking stove subject, as obviously they are a mite bit bigger size and in weight-wise, and consequently a little less easily man portable-unless you are say, car-camping or something, or maybe perhaps dragging your wilderness camp kit in on a sled of some kind for winter camping activities, or arriving to a campsite by canoe or horseback/pack-mules.

http://www.woodgas-stove.com/?gclid=CMDT5pD2qZACFQ5uMAodEHs-Xw  Back to this type for a minute, has anyone tried out one of them at all please here?

CP,

Well I work in the aircraft industry, so come across abit of Ti mainly due to the fact that it has been scrapped off (very poor engineering).
I'm abit of a horder so if there any Ti or Stainless steal thats going "free" it get stashed under my bench.

Oh even made a spoon from some Ti, had to use a 2 lb hammer to get the dish part into it.

Ti is a bugger to drill and cut. As soon as you start working it, it hardens.
As for crampons, I think they make them out of high carbon steel. Which is harder than Ti, but wouldn't say Ti is soft.

F1 cars use it on the under side to protect the chassis when they bottom out on long straights. So if they can be used for that I don't see why crampons couldn't be made from it. Possible manufacturing cost be too high? <scratches head>

Cheers, that sort of backs up what I thought.  Cost, I suspect, may be the overriding factor...