I haven't seen many people mention these with reference to mid boots. Salomon's always used to be a good fit with me (I wore out the forerunner of the Megatrek Light 6 model), but I shifted over to Meindles of late. Terrocs don't necessarily agree with me and I was wondering whether to 'return to the fold'. I see only one review for the Elioses - any other views?

Edit: I have just found the OM review here where they're seen as comfortable, but could get hot in warm weather. Anyone had experience of them getting hot like this?

I've got a pair of these, and mine have stayed waterproof. They aren't overly hot, do feel nice and light, and all in all, are nice to wear. Strangely, I find that sometimes they rub the back of my heel if I'm carrying a heavier load than just a day trip (ie, I'm carrying a tent, sleeping bag, cooking gear etc) but on the whole I'm happy with them, as most of my walking IS just day stuff. Having said that, I usually wear inov8 shoes now, and prefer them, now that I've got my head round the 'never mind getting wet feet' philosophy.

 Oh, and you don't get hot feet when yer shoes let water in! ( they stay nice and cool, but dry out quick.)

I tried them on in a shop recently as I was looking for some light, summer hillwalking boots.  I found them to fit quite small, so I needed a full size bigger than my shoe size, despite wearing just one pair of thin socks.  They are quite narrow, but not exceptionally so.  The sole is fairly bendy both front-back and side-side, but it looks deep and gripping. 

The thing that worried me most was that the insole seems to be glued or otherwise fixed in place.  Not good if you like to replace them with something sturdier (the Elios insole is very soft and comfortable, but not supportive).

In the end, I decided that the Keen Targhee were a better bet - slightly more comfortable with possibly a slightly less aggressive sole, but a whole lot better insole.  Though they do look quite ugly.  I haven't bought either yet as I want to try some more before deciding.  Why can't someone make a light summer boot in black rather than all these horrible multicolour eyesores!

YMMV.

The ones I looked at were grey with some minor orange trim.  Note sure if that makes a difference, but I would assume they were the latest model.  I will try to look again.  It is possible that the insole was just wedged in there real tight so that I did not pull it up, but I was certainly expecting to, so I don't think I was that gentle.

Another thing I thought of is that the super grippy sole is also quite soft.  When I used it for edging / contouring (still only on the ramp in the shop), it seemed to flex quite a lot in the knobs of the sole.  For normal lower level walking this will not be an issue, but on high, steep rock it shows the limitation of the design, but then it was not designed for high steep rock.

Good point about footbeds altering the height of your heel CB.  I've had no end of trouble with my low-volume feet and actually reverted to wearing odd boots (Aku and Reichle) because one of each caused problems.

If the boot is on the large side I use Spenco insoles.  These are similiar to Superfeet with different types for general walking/backpacking etc.  But I prefer Spenco because they have pads of different consistency underneath which are positioned at stress points. Also the surface of the footbed is slightly cushioned and not as hard as Superfeet.   Cost is around £25 if I remember correctly.

I've found the boots that fit me best are Scarpa Peak (but i think they've altered the sole -damn!) and Scarpa Treck 2  (no goretex)  Both have the Skywalk sole which I find OK.  Go Outdoors were offering the Peaks at £55 (half price) some time ago but like a complete pill*ck I didn't get any.  Scarpas newish Infinity GTX won't fit and I think they're made on the same last as the Peak!