Opened my new Akto tent last week and put it up in the garden - a strange shapeless beasty! I was curious to see what all the fuss is about the Akto. I weighed mine and got 1.47kg. I saw the inner touches the fly in many spots.

 I didn't sleep in it but it poured heavily with rain for 2 nights and the day between - and it was dry inside the tent after this, so, seems to work! I saw some comments about cooking space and in my opinion there is ample room for something like a Camping Gaz Globetrotter.

 Yep, seems like an OK tent for backpacking. Easy to erect, easy to pack away. But overpriced - wages in Estonia (where Aktos are made) are about ONE SEVENTH of wages in the UK, so something in the range of 40 Pounds would be a bit more realistic ???!!!

If the innere touches the fly, adjust it!

Maybe you can't in such a poor design.

The first time I pitched my Akto the inner and outer were touching due to static charge, the inner was obviously lifted rather than the outer drooping. When pitched for real there was no touching...

There's is certainly enough room for careful cooking in the porch as I used my JetBoil to cook couscous and Herdwick Mutton Stew last time out!

For sure Beth .. been eating them more or less since they came out. The mutton and the beef are my favourites. They are great. They're kinda why I tried to discourage a certain person from eating american candy bars .. the LWWF stuff made me think why on earth wasn't I eating food from the same (or at least similar) hills that I enjoy walking up so I've been trying to eat local stuff a bit more - oatcakes and cheese for example are nice after a LWWF main meal. And as for my home-made organic sourdough bread and Scottish Heather Honey sandwiches ..

Emerald Fox wrote (see)

 Opened my new Akto tent last week and put it up in the garden - a strange shapeless beasty! I was curious to see what all the fuss is about the Akto. I weighed mine and got 1.47kg. I saw the inner touches the fly in many spots.

 I didn't sleep in it but it poured heavily with rain for 2 nights and the day between - and it was dry inside the tent after this, so, seems to work! I saw some comments about cooking space and in my opinion there is ample room for something like a Camping Gaz Globetrotter.

If you tighten the pole tensioner, you shouldn't get any contact between the inner and the fly unless it's from the wind.

Significantly, you did not actually sleep in the tent.  Get in there to test out the potential (look, I said potential before the fanboys start flaming me) condensation problem before you take it out into the boonies.

But overpriced - wages in Estonia (where Aktos are made) are about ONE SEVENTH of wages in the UK, so something in the range of 40 Pounds would be a bit more realistic ???!!!

Yeah right!

Most of the competition is made in China.  How do you think their wages stack up compared to Estonia? And on top of that, the fabrics don't come from Estonia, they come from the likes of Carringtons, and whatever the labour costs you won't get the raw materials in that quality for close to £40, never mind sell the finished product.

The first time I pitched my Akto the inner and outer were touching due to static charge, the inner was obviously lifted rather than the outer drooping. When pitched for real there was no touching...

Just as with Beth's Akto, with my Kaitum.  A non issue for Real World use.

I've had my Akto for about 4 years and never had condensation problems. Its an old wive's tale.

Not an old wive's tale, just plain luck that you weren't out in atmospherics where it's inevitable.  Hilleberg's own FAQ points out that in some conditions condensation will be a problem and it's right.  On a recent weekend camp we had the tent pitched and vented identically both nights in a similar breeze.  Sunday morning completely dry, Saturday morning soaking wet, as was every blade of grass in the vicinity with a very heavy dew.  No lightweight & waterprrof tent, whatever the label on it, will escape condensation in those conditions.

Pete.

Scottish Heather Honey sandwiches

I hope you used Scottish butter too...

Beth wrote (see)

Scottish Heather Honey sandwiches

I hope you used Scottish butter too...

Yep.

As this Akto comment seems to have digressed into the realms of tummies, don't forget to take Scottish single malts into the hills   Fox is going through the distilleries one by one, latest =

Linkwood - very sweet and toffee taste, goes well with cocoa/hot chocolate (a sip of whisky, then a sip of the cocoa, not mixed together, that would be yuck!).

Miltonduff - thought this was meths at first! Pretty horrible. But you get used to it. However, I won't buy again.

Ardmore - nice. Light, lemony, slightly peaty. Quite respectable. This is the malt that goes into Teacher'.

Glenfarclas 15y I have open (present for our babysitter) for tasting and this is an old favourite, 'gingery' taste.

Lagavulin 16y we are taking to the Lake District next week, tarry, peaty, oily, another old favourite.

Current favourite is Ardbeg: the expensive cask strength one. Malty and smokey and in ya face! The ordinary one you can buy in Tesco is okay but I made the mistake of buying a bottle at the distillery... Uigeadail, it's very nice.

Peter Clinch wrote (see)

I've had my Akto for about 4 years and never had condensation problems. Its an old wive's tale.

Not an old wive's tale, just plain luck that you weren't out in atmospherics where it's inevitable.  Hilleberg's own FAQ points out that in some conditions condensation will be a problem and it's right.  On a recent weekend camp we had the tent pitched and vented identically both nights in a similar breeze.  Sunday morning completely dry, Saturday morning soaking wet, as was every blade of grass in the vicinity with a very heavy dew.  No lightweight & waterprrof tent, whatever the label on it, will escape condensation in those conditions.

Pete.

Depends on your definition of "problem".  Can life go on with it?  Certainly.  Is life as easy and pleasant as if it wasn't there?  Certainly not.

If you want to ensure the inner's dry(ish) when you pack up you'll have to dismount it which is a faff, and packing up with a layer of water inside means more weight.  If the outer is shaken when you've got the inner door open you'll get some "rain" in.

I see it as a fact of life you have to live with.  And it's not difficult to live with, but it remains a problem at some level as it requires a change in behaviour to deal with it.

Pete.