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Made from the same foil as the Space blanket
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Trevor D Gamble
03/09/09 01:15
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Simon Barry wrote (see)

Hi Alex,

I'm sort of with Trevor on this...in that, I think you will find it very hard to justify the completely dry claims to the satisfaction of our advertising regulators here in the UK (I refer you to a current thread re superfeet)....so, if I were you, I would modify your statements to allow for a little...flexibility...and to avoid an issue before it becomes an issue.

If it was just me, I'd use common sense...it has holes for head and arms...it is non-breathable...so I'll get damp from ingress and condensation...but then I am old and grumpy..

As for the signalling suggestion. Perhaps elsewhere....but I have a reservation here in the UK. I used to carry a space blanket - not for its use as a shelter, but as large silver square to reflect radar and be seen.....(actually, I still carry it as havent thrown it yet)

In the rain, an RAF chopper pilot told me, they dont work as either.  They go more white (as seen from the air) and look like a boulder or disappear into the clag...he couldnt explain why they dont reflect radar but said they dont.  AS we get a lot of rain here. (UK)..and almost certainly is involved with emergencies this information was a disappointment to me.


Good survival info post there Simon on the helli crews bit! Thanks! Noted!Will pass that information onto the new Chris Caine Survival School Forum.
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Trevor D Gamble
03/09/09 02:29
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John thanks for the most kind words there my mate. I consider you too to be a gentleman, and a scholar of course!I do very much hope you feel much more like your usual excellent self again very soon ok.

As for the hood thing I was more trying to get back to the originators real reason for including the hood into this Space Poncho design concept; seeing as it came out of that original plastic poncho concept, married in with the survival foil blanket product idea of trying to reduce heat loss from the body. I was really only trying to ascertain whether the idea originator had included the hood more as a rain protection item as on the original poncho, or was more thinking of the benefits of radiated/reflected lost heat going back to the head there is all. I am still none too convinced that such a flimsy hood can provide any real adequate wind and rain protection outdoors, as the ones on my own emergency plastic ponchos I have worn over the years certainly never have done.

My own background interest subject is survival studies as you probably know, whether it be land survival or sea, wilderness, desert, jungle, or whatever be the whole nine yards. I do pretty much know my stuff, should do by now been at it for long enough, lol! So I do tend to forensically examine the detail of stuff if it be to do with my chosen specialist subject, perhaps a mite more than the most.

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Trevor D Gamble
03/09/09 02:56
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Alex Thomson wrote (see)
You are trying to turn the words around to suit the situation, I am not making ridiculous statements, just pure fact!!! It seems Trevor that nothing I say will make you happy. The only way I can prove it is to offer you sample to try and I wonder if even this will be good enough to convince you?

Alex, how have I tried to turn the words around? That is simply rubbish sir! I have done nothing of the kind at all. I said that the two product claims were ridiculous in that they are incapable of being proven only, as they are a bad nonsense use of language is all; and so not factual descriptions of product capability at all. Did you really come here to try just to make me happy? I think not! I had the idea in my head you had come here with an open mind, not a closed one, to listen to what we all had to say; and to try to take on board possible offered ideas to make your future products better, I thought! And certainly not to make me happy.I am notoriously hard to please anyway! Fussy bugger me.
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captain paranoia
04/09/09 15:42

> Do you really think that by wearing expensive rain gear, it will keep you 100% dry from the inside? I don't think so!

No, I don't, and I suspect Trevor doesn't either; we all know that Gore's claim 'Guaranteed to Keep You Dry' is 100% bollox...

However, some care with words is probably required 'they keep you 100% dry' is probably not an appropriate phrase for what is effectively vapour barrier technology (granted, with rather large holes at side and head...).

If you said that the material was waterproof, I think that would be prefectly supportable, even to the requirements of UK advertising (where such claims must be met by a British Standard hydrostatic head test).

Not sure how I missed the thread first time around, but it looks to get around the problems of the classic metallised PET 'space blanket' (the propensity to tear, in particular), and become more like a Blizzard Bag.

John's review seemed (unsurprisingly), very fair and pretty thorough.

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Trevor D Gamble
05/09/09 21:48
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Yes, I agree with you there cp. Plus it is grest fun to see John dressed up like a space alien like that! lol, finally there is Party wear for the hill!
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Graham Ogle
22/02/10 08:00
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Alex,

Sorry this request is in public forum, but I can't find any way of sending a private message. I have an application which could benefit from space blanket technology. Could you pm me with your contact details so we can discuss it offline.

Thanks

Graham

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Alex Thomson
22/02/10 08:30
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Hi Graham,

I have sent you my details! Regards,

Alex

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