hello, have been looking at alpkit pipedream 600 which is OUT OF STOCK!! the weight/price apeals for the specs, now i'm off wild camping in lakes in mid march and they are not due in till possibly april. For the time of year would the PD400 suffice, or could anyone advise an alternative, weight should ideally be no more than 950g and i'm willing to spend upto £180. any advice would be greatly received thanks
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 i used my PD400 last weekend in the lakes sleeping on a concrete barn floor, not the warmest of surfaces. teamed the bag up with my down mat and i was toasty warm all night.
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thx for that tim, its so hard to judge the bag ratings without actually using them GoLite Adrenaline 20 Sleeping Bag
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a couple of people have posted on different threads (can't remember which ones, sorry)that they have used their pd400 down below the rating of the bag. use the search function and you should find helpful info on this bag. i was looking at the 600 too but because it was out of stock went for the 400, glad i did, cheaper, lighter and so far warm enough. hopefuly others will be along with different options to help/confuse*  * delete as applicable
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 Different options? If you don't need it til March, hang on and see if PHD have their usual winter sale at the end of Feb and pick up a fluffy lightweight bargain then?
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trouble is i have nothing to go by as it was only last year i got into the wild camping thing and i bought a cheapie eurohike adventurer 200 rated at 0deg and i was cold at easter with thermals on and fleece plus hat, this was at angle tarn so if i remember bout 550m up, snow on ground and boots were frozen in morning!! the PD400's weight cetainly sounds apealing but i dont want to buy another bag and be cold!! i will be partnering bag up with thermalrest neoair if this helps anyone, thx
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 Do you carry a down jacket or similar with you on these wildcamps? That could help supplement the bag.
I recently bought a PD600 and completed the Annapurna Circuit in the Himalayas with it and found that even on the coldest night (where apparently it was -10C to -12C) I only needed to wear my thermals and was roasting. I half-wish Id only bought the PD400 and supplemented it with the other insulation layers I would be carrying anyway.
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hi ben, was in the process of purchasing one now, what are the bags like for room? i'm 5ft 11ins prob say average build(13.5 stone) fairly broad across shoulders, must admit for the amount of camping i do the PD400 sounds very apealling in weight and in price
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Just bought myself a PD400 and from a quick bedroom test (which doesn't really prove anything...) it was just as warm ME (synthetic) bag which has a comfort rating of -6 (against the PD400's -3). I can easily see that with appropriate clothing it would be fine for some pretty chilly temperatures!
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Well Im not that tall (5ft 9 maybe) but fairly broad (to put it politely - 12stone). I find it fits fine across the shoulders though maybe we need a length recommendation from somebody a little taller?
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6ft, well built (well, me Julie likes it   ) and the fit is great
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 Hmm, "...snow on ground and boots were frozen in morning!"Good though they are, in those sorts of conditions it seems to me that you're pushing a Neoair close to, if not beyond, its insulating limits. One simple and relatively cheap way to increase your sleeping comfort would be to add a closed cell foam mat under the Neoair - a lot cheaper than a new bag, or at least it lets you take your time finding the bag you really want. The biggest downside of a closed cell mat addition is the bulk and finding a suitable way to incorporate it in your load.
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have read somewhere that it should be good upto 6ft1ins so will be ok there, spose if i'm carrying down jacket anyway, i may as well opt for the lighter bag and use it if need be
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@tim lol @matt, got a spare mat in garage could cut in half and place that under neo in core area, so not gonna be adding to much weight, well worth a try, might try in garden at wkend, ground frozen here so good test for it!!
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 Hi Nick I have both bags and recently used my PD600 at Edale a fortnight ago. I spent most of the night with my top half out of the bag as I was too warm. This was at a campsite and not on a hill so it was bound to be warmer. I know it's not much help now but Alpkit have had a yard sale for the past two years so you could always get the PD400 now and wait until they have the PD600 in later or at the yard sale. That's what I did but does that mean I have to get thePD800 to complete the set
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hi fenwick thx for info, if i could sleep with zip halfway down that would be good for me as i sleep better with arms out of bag and under my head!!!!
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 a couple of people have posted on different threads (can't remember which ones, sorry)that they have used their pd400 down below the rating of the bag. use the search function and you should find helpful info on this bag. i was looking at the 600 too but because it was out of stock went for the 400, glad i did, cheaper, lighter and so far warm enough. hopefuly others will be along with different options to help/confuse* * delete as applicable
have used the pd400 at -7C with only a thinlight foam mat underneath and was warm all night
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