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Jack Bauer
03/03/10 23:15
 Lowland rambler 2 forum posts

Hello

I'm considering getting my first down bag and would like some advice on whether it would be a good idea.  Has anyone used a down bag for military type activities? Was it difficult keeping the bag dry? I don't think I've ever really got my synthetic bag particularly wet even in fairly shite conditions.

It'll need to be reasonably drab colour - currently looking at one of these: http://uk.thenorthface.com/tnf-uk-en/equipment/sleeping-bags/superlight.html (ignoring the lime green inside!)

which would live in my Rab event bivvy bag. 

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Sean Mgn
04/03/10 17:36
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Doesn't matter which one you get, you never sleep anyway. Thanks for saving the world by the way.
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Brynsubaqua
04/03/10 18:07
 Lowland rambler 31 forum posts

I would stick with synthetic. I ain't worth the chance. If your bag gets wet on tour or exercise it can ruin your day! There is always room in a bergen for the difference between a down bag and a synthetic one and the weight won't matter much compared to everything else you will have.

I had both but always used my synthetic bag. I've seen lads come a cropper and it ain't funny.

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niloC
04/03/10 18:09
 Lowland rambler 59 forum posts 1 classified

Hi

"Has anyone used a down bag for military type activities?"

Yes, a few years ago but don't get it wet in a shell scrape or a trench, you will have an uncomfortable night if it's cold!

 "Was it difficult keeping the bag dry?"

Yes, you need a decent bivvy to try to keep it dry or see above! and in the field you may not get it dry again and have more uncomfortable nights.

If you are going down the road of a down bag, get one with the best waterproof/resistant outer that you can.

All IMHO of course but I have spent a few nights in a wet down bag and suffered! but things have moved on a lot since then!.

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Jack Bauer
04/03/10 19:33
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niloC wrote (see)
Yes, you need a decent bivvy to try to keep it dry or see above! and in the field you may not get it dry again and have more uncomfortable nights.

I guess this is the real problem, if you got a down bag wet on a week's exercise then you have a bad week, so on a tour it's a whole lot worse :-/

Looks like an upgraded synthetic bag for me then... I already have a Softie 9, any ideas for something to upgrade it?

I already have a Nanok bag from before the Softie, it's completely useless. I think there's too much space around me, so every time I move all the warm air is expelled. Also the hood seems a bit of a primitive design and doesn't really keep my head warm. Also - two zips wtf?

Looking around on the Net, apart from the ubiqiotous Snugpaks I've seen Ajungilak Tyin and Haglofs Zensor. Any experience or thoughts on these? Any others I should consider?

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Brynsubaqua
04/03/10 21:06
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I have one of the old issue bags and they where pretty good. The part that made them good is the "taurpauline" like bottom on them that kept them dry. The down side of this is they weighed about 4kgs and took up most of your bergan. I used mine for undercover nights, such as barns or in the back of a 4 tonner, when I didn't have to carry it on my back. I think the Falkland conflict taught the army a lesson about those bags. They got wet from the top and made for very unpleasant times. They brought out the synthetic bags as used today.

My modern synthetic bag is smaller, lighter and warmer.

It just isn't worth being cold and wet when you do get the chance to get your head down.

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