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Sw3
23/05/10 21:43
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark

 hi all,

 thinking of buying a 1litre etapower or similar pot.....but gas cartridges don't seem to fit in it. are they all the same size?

also, i'd like to fit  my trangia burner (approx 100mm max diameter ) in it.

suggestions for alternatives welcome, but keep it cheap, no titanium £60 jobbies!

cheers all, hope you had a good weekend!

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Mal Mawr
23/05/10 22:00
 Alpine improver 12385 forum posts 58 photos 3 bookmarks
I don't understand, why would you use a trangia burner with an eta power pot? Surely the base heat exchanger would only get sooted up and the heat produced wouldn't be high enough to make it effective anyway. A primus 230 cartridge should fit into it, at least I can fit one into my primus litech trek kettle which is the same thing only without the base heat exchanger.
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Matt C
23/05/10 22:23
 Himalayan mountaineer 20693 forum posts 883 photos 2 articles 20 bookmarks
I think he means a Trangia gas burner....  a standard trangia meths burner isn't 100mm diameter, but the feed tube on a gas one probably makes it that.
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Sw3
24/05/10 10:21
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark
yes, apologies, i meant trangia gas burner!
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TP
24/05/10 10:30

Surely you wouldn't be using the eta pot in a trangia? Are you using the trangia gas burner in another stand than the trangia one its meant for? I know there is at least one stand out there that is meant to hold it.

Just curious as to why a heat exchanger pot with a gas burner meant for a specific system.

No real alternatives to the eta pot unless you get one of the bigger eta range of pots. I think you can get a 1.4l pot that is as used in the main / original eta cook set.

You can pick up plain titanium pots cheaper than £60 if you shop around. Outdoor Warehouse in WIndermere and online do Vargo ones cheaper IIRC. As do BPL-UK I believe, although I haven't been on that site for ages and ages so can't be sure ( only once a week in case something new comes in).

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Sw3
24/05/10 18:02
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark

thanks TTG. i would be using the  burner separate from the rest of the trangia; currently trying to make my own one, so would be v interested if you have the address for the 'real' one .

i have found out that yes, i'm a fool, all the gas canisters in the shop fit, burner was a bit tight. i also found out that cotswold don't sell display pots cheap if they're dinged (this one eta power had a crumpled 'skirt' ) and that blacks do a very similar one for £12!

cheers, sw

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Sw3
24/05/10 18:02
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark

thanks TTG. i would be using the  burner separate from the rest of the trangia; currently trying to make my own one, so would be v interested if you have the address for the 'real' one .

i have found out that yes, i'm a fool, all the gas canisters in the shop fit, burner was a bit tight. i also found out that cotswold don't sell display pots cheap if they're dinged (this one eta power had a crumpled 'skirt' ) and that blacks do a very similar one for £12!

cheers, sw

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Sw3
24/05/10 18:05
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark
i should say that the blacks one does not have the heat exchanger bit, so it's like the litetech trek kettle
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Sw3
24/05/10 18:23
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark
http://www.clikstand.com/f_multifuel.html for alcohol burners but "not gas burners"...don't know if they mean "petrol" as it's a US site.
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Sw3
24/05/10 18:46
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark
and there's a 'westwind' triangle of steel plates, looks like a project....
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captain paranoia
24/05/10 19:00

> i should say that the blacks one does not have the heat exchanger bit, so it's like the litetech trek kettle

Blacks Solo Cookset is quite a nice little pan set, and, as you say, about the same size as the Litech kettle.  It's even more similar to a Coleman set.

I like the rounded corners to the flat base (good for cleaning), but I'd rather have flush-mounted handle rivets; the prominent rivets are a bit of a dirt trap.

It's one of many pan sets I bought when looking for Caldera Clone candidate pans; I recently made a Flissure Clone for it that fits both the main pan and the cup, and fits inside the pan, making a nice, compact cookset.

> http://www.clikstand.com/f_multifuel.html for alcohol burners but "not gas burners"...

They're pretty clear on what 'multifuel' means:

Alcohol: meths, ethanol, methanol

Solid fuel: Esbit, hexamine

White Gas: aka pure petrol, Coleman fuel, Aspen 4T

Canister gas: butane/propane etc.

What they're saying is, I think, that the Clikstand, since it is designed to take a Trangia burner, will also take either the gas or liquid fuel conversion kits available for the Trangia stove.

The bit at the bottom about windshields I suspect refers to liquid fuel stoves.  Since their windshield looks to be 'aluminium siding', it probably wouldn't be able to cope with the high power output from a liquid fuel burner.  I'm not convinced the rest of it would, either...

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Sw3
24/05/10 21:09
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark

spooky! i was just going to put a call out for the Almighty Cap'n P! straight up! was going to ask if you had any ideas/drawings/suggestions . was looking at the coleman system oN cave & crag...

 am pretty sure i can fit the gas burner in a s/b value grapefruit tin, but the pan support? do you think steel garden mesh would work? (have only a dremel & hacksaw ) or would opened & folded cans work better?

would be interested to know if anyone has a supplier of ?1mm aluminium plate to make a pan support/windshield.

cheers all!

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Sw3
24/05/10 21:12
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark
i really should look into this caldera cone business as well ....
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Mal Mawr
24/05/10 21:47
 Alpine improver 12385 forum posts 58 photos 3 bookmarks
Matt C wrote (see)
I think he means a Trangia gas burner....  a standard trangia meths burner isn't 100mm diameter, but the feed tube on a gas one probably makes it that.

I had considered that but thought Sw3 couldn't mean it as I thought the burner of a Trangia gas conversion unit would be too large for use with a 1L Litech trek kettle. I have since checked mine and can see that it's probably feasible.

Jumping to conclusions on a false premise, eh?

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Salmon Shirted Panther
24/05/10 23:23
 Alpine newbie 1069 forum posts 1 bookmark

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Primus ETA express, (I really love mine).  Yes you can buy cheaper, but I got mine for the bargain price of £56.00 delivered from Army Rations.  I always search products on google shopping and filter by lowest first; there is always somewhere with a sale on.
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Sw3
25/05/10 10:10
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark

wow! nice one Simon, good deal!

interesting to see that you can buy the windshield separately, too.
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captain paranoia
25/05/10 13:10

> was looking at the coleman system oN cave & crag...

Coleman system?

> am pretty sure i can fit the gas burner in a s/b value grapefruit tin,

Never looked at either of the Trangia converters in detail, so can't comment.

> but the pan support? do you think steel garden mesh would work?

'Hardware cloth' is a popular choice for lightweight pan supports.  Or mesh from disposable BBQs.

> would be interested to know if anyone has a supplier of ?1mm aluminium plate to make a pan support/windshield.

1mm is too thick and heavy.  Unless you want thick and heavy.

Look at the Caldera Clone thread for aluminium foil sources.  Or look at this thread.

I think it might be useful if you trawl though some old threads on home-made stoves.  You could start with the Q&A thread

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Sw3
25/05/10 18:05
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark

cheers Captain!

Coleman package rather than system:as going to buy one, either f1 lite or spirit

http://www.cave-crag.co.uk/1525/Coleman-F1-Lite-Stove---Free-Mini-Cook-Kit.html

  • One 940ml Cup
  • One 590ml Cup
  • One 470ml Pan
  • One 350ml Pan

but don't like the idea that coleman stoves only fit coleman canisters (?)...and wanted to see what i could fit in the pots .

Have protected the pots with an old halva pot and the lid of M&S 200g all butter bites

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Rod MacDonald
28/05/10 10:32
 Mountain scrambler 370 forum posts 1 bookmark
If you're looking for a lightweight lid to fit your ETA pot instead of the supplied mini frying pan, a CD or DVD covered with a couple of layers of strong tinfoil is a perfect fit.
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Sw3
28/05/10 11:06
 Lowland rambler 137 forum posts 7 reviews 1 bookmark
good tip Rod! might use that one for a potstand
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