Morning all. I'm posting this as information for anyone who is looking at buying a Hilleberg Nallo gt 2 or 3 (as I was until yesterday).
In my journey through the web I came across the Nanok Dumos Trio. Check out these links for pictures and tech info:
http://www.nanok.no/engelsk/page37/page38/page38.html
http://www.lakelandbushcraft.co.uk/acatalog/Nanok.html
As far as I can see you're getting a tent made from essentially the same materials as the Hilleberg but for a fraction of the cost - I got one from Nevis Sport on sale at £300 instead of £400. Given that the Hilleberg Nallo gt 3 is at least £560 this is an incredible bargain.
There are slight differences in dimentions all round, weight is a little different since the Nanok uses a heavier groundsheet but all in all I am very impressed with this tent and I'd recommend it to anybody looking for a lightweight tunnel with extended vestibule. I have a Hilleberg Akto and I can't see any difference at all in quality of stitching etc.
I'll post a review soon - the main focus of which will be ventilation as the Nanok has some different venting options than the Nallo.
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That should be the Nanok 'Domus' (not Dumos) Trio.
Sorry. To much excitement yesterday buying a new tent...
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Bwoaah there a loads of copies of Hilleberg copies or Hilleberg copies of other brands. I name for instance helsport, all tent brands look at eachother constantly and compete to make the lightest and sturdiest tent. The move of Hilleberg towards to lightweight tipi's of helsport is also clear with thir introduction of the yurt styled Altai But still the Nanok 'Domus' is no exact copy, it's way heavier. But then again also a alot cheaper. Let's hope the quality of the used materials and service is the same as hillies... Another brand with same styles of tents as Hilleberg and Helsport is this unknown brand: Kaikkailla. They make almost exact copies of Hillies.... http://www.kaikkialla.com/ But they are a bit secret about this copy activity of them. They do not have a on-line catalogus. The weird thing is that I saw these tents only in the shop of the only retailer/importer who also sells hilleberg in my country...
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 As well as looking at what other folk do, there are only so many ways of doing things. I think it remains the case that crawling around inside of something you've just pitched, or at least helped pitch, is the best way of deciding on a tent. Looking at the floorplans I'd personally reject the Nanoks on interior space which is narrower than the HB's, but having said that we rejected the Nallo as narrower than we liked too... More options is always good though! Pete.
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Thanks for those words of wisdom Zuma.
You'll notice I didn't say the Domus was an 'exact copy' of the Nallo, and that I did point out it is heavier. If I strip the Domus down though (eg remove the gear loft, use better/lighter pegs and then leave half of them at home) it gets down to 3.1kg - not far off the gross weight of the Nallo gt 3 at 2.9kg. In fact, if you compare the net weights of the Nallo (2500g according to Hilleberg) and the Domus (2859g) I don't think I'll notice the extra few-hundred grams on my back when I've got £250 left in my wallet from not buying the Nallo. As I stated above this is mainly due to the heavier groudsheet material and different dimensions.
The reason I posted was the fact that since Nanok seems to be a difficult brand to come by in the UK I felt people in the market for a Nallo gt may appreciate being made aware of this alternative. I understand daring to post such information and make comparisons to Hillebergs is a major irritation for a living breathing tent catalogue like yourself.
Pete:
I thought hard about the Domus narrowing to the rear but actually prefered the extra headroom it gives over the Nallo. Like you say though - more options keeps things competative.
Cheers
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Hi Zuma, Kaikkialla is the housebrand of a consortium of 8 of the bigger outdoor retail Chains in (continental) Europe. Among them "Bever Zwerfsport" , which is also the offical importer of Hilleberg Tents for the Benelux. Thats also where you can find there products. So not available in the UK Nothing weird or secret about it. Each of them has its own online catalog where you can find the Kaikkialla products. as for price/quality I would place them as average. So reasonable prices for reasonable funktion. So not in the same game as Hilleberg/Helsport/Nanok who all aim at the top end of the market Cheers
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I thought hard about the Domus narrowing to the rear but actually prefered the extra headroom it gives over the Nallo. We ended up with a Kaitum (3), which not only doesn't narrow significantly but doesn't taper vertically in the inner either. Plus better venting and two doors. On the other hand, while the porch area is about the same as a Nallo GT, the porch volume is down (as what you've gained in the inner you've lost at the ends). Pete.
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Yeah I liked the look of the Kaitum too. The gt model would have been a goer for me I think but I think since they're a fairly recent addition to the Hilleberg range we aren't seeing any going second hand on eBay. That's if anybody here actually bought one of the Kaitum gt models. Those Nallos sure are popular...
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Nallos are popular for two reasons... First they're pretty good, but (second) they're also the ones people know about. Because they're well known, they get stocked, because they're stocked they're bought, because they're bought they're known about, and so on around the loop. It seems entirely normal for a Hilleberg stockist in the UK to carry Nallo 2/3 [GT] and Akto, and that's it. Can't blame them for that, it makes good business sense, but it's a shame if, like me, you don't have any interest in either of those models! Pitching my Tarra on a paddling trip drew some interest from a chap with a Quasar ETC, liking the look of my tent. When I told him who made it he was quite surprised, he thought Hillie only did tunnels and wanting something free-standing for shingle beaches hadn't bothered looking further into them. Most of their range is a mystery to a lot of folk. Pete.
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Hi Zuma, Kaikkialla is the housebrand of a consortium of 8 of the bigger outdoor retail Chains in (continental) Europe. Among them "Bever Zwerfsport" , which is also the offical importer of Hilleberg Tents for the Benelux. Thats also where you can find there products. So not available in the UK Nothing weird or secret about it. Each of them has its own online catalog where you can find the Kaikkialla products. as for price/quality I would place them as average. So reasonable prices for reasonable funktion. So not in the same game as Hilleberg/Helsport/Nanok who all aim at the top end of the market Cheers
Ha Rolf, Thanks that explains the lack of a catalogue on the Kaikkialla website. So it's a housebrand of a consortium of 8 of the bigger outdoor retail Chains in (continental) Europe. Interesting, why do these big retail chains work together to set-up an own brand? Is it indeed to put economic pressure on wholesale prices of the other brands that are somewhat copied by the Kaikalla brand? We all know Hillies and Helies tents are quite expensive. Kaikalla isn't really cheap as well but cheap enough to consider this alternative over a Hillie or a Helie. The build quality does seem to be in order as well in so far I've seen these tents in a retailshop.
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