Apologies for bothering you guys again but I am just wondering what if any functionality software/navigation wise you lose by going with a HTC Wildfire and Viewranger instead of a Nokia 5800? I am thinking that it may be worth me paying £140 or so on eBay to get a HTC Wildfire instead of just £80 or so for a Nokia 5800 because I feel the slow cpu on the 5800 would be a major frustration for me especially because I use my phone a lot for web, email, text, music, photo and video messaging too. I think the Wildfire may be 500mhz or is it 680? Instead of the measly 200 or so for the 5800? And it doesn't look like Nokia are about to bring out anything anytime soon as a good enough replacement for the sucessful 5800. I can also get one of these: http://www.veho-uk.com/main/shop_detail.aspx?article=124 which Mr Swold kindly recommended in a previous post as a solution to the faster drain on the HTC phones as well as spare batteries. I am just wondering though what you lose from Viewranger on the HTC that you would of had on a 5800? Cheers, John
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Vodafone are doing the Wildfire for £160 online, but £140 in store (at least mine was a few months ago) - including £10 free time and £5 web. I'm really pleased with mine, a real pleasure to use, seemed to me to be in a different league to the 5800 when I tried them out. Suggest you get a dem before you make a decision.
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May I suggest the Motorola Defy.
They can be picked up for around £190 on ebay and are a much better phone than the Wildfire.
The Defy has a more rugged exterior and is fully waterproof, a larger resolution screen (3 times that of the wildfire)along with other hardware improvements (draft.n wifi, 720p video recording and gorilla glass to name a few)
you will also not get any of the limited program storage the HTC Wildfire has that it inherited from it desire brother.
IMHO the Defy a great budget Android phone that's outdoors orientated and worth the little extra.
Its on a par with my galaxy s (performance wise) which im to timid to take on hike with me for fear of killing it.
Regards,
Dave.
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Alove - Is the Vodafone deal on a contract and if so how much a month? At the moment I am on 3 PAYG and I am only topping up with about £10 credit every three months. I keep getting loads of free texts and internet with them. I do think Vodafone are brilliant reception wise and for customer service but their prices are a little high that's why I left them to 3 a few years ago. Dave - Is the Defy compatible with Viewranger and to what degree? Same as other Androids like the Wildfire? I also just wonder what the battery drain is like on that and how big it is? I like the sound of ruggedness. What spec and speed of cpu does it have?
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 John, the Defy has a 800MHz processor, 5MP camera with LED flash. It doesn't come with 2.2 Froyo however and uses 2.1 Eclair as the OS though (which is a bit odd).
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Imperial John - nope, the Vodafone deal is straight PAYG. Reception in Scotland at least is superb. You get all sorts of topping up offers. Here is the Vodafone online deal - as I said, when I went into my local store, the in-store price was £140 including £10 free minutes and £5 web.
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Sorry for the late reply,
The defy will indeed use the Viewranger program just fine, it also has the Android 2.2 update available to unbranded phones although branded phones on networks may have to wait a little while for the upgrade.
It's supposedly to get 2.3 gingerbread in the near future soon too.
Battery is a 1540mAh and it see's me through a full day without problems although I use advanced task killer (available from android market) which helps kill off battery sapping programs, and I have disabled the auto updates to facebook twitter ect.
It has a Ti omap 3610 cpu @800Mhz which is on a par with the Qualcomm Snapdragon and samsung Hummingbird cpu's despite running a little slower.
The Defy also has a dedicated GPU for helping with 3D applications such as games and google earth / maps so it will support 3D rendering of buildings in those apps.
TBH any of the phones here are good for their prices I still have my old nokia 5800 which I used for outdoors when I first got my galaxy, and although they are not as fast as the newer handsets and lack a digital compass and the versatility of the android platform for programs they basically do the same job at a significantly reduced price.
Whatever you choose you probably wont be dissapointed.
-Dave
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Not sure if I am allowed to post links here? http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_defy-3514.php That will show you all the info on the Defy. And this following link shows a small video of someone abusing the handset  http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg3l7m_motorola-defy-test-extreme_tech Please delete the post/link if this is against any posting rules. -Dave
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And this following link shows a small video of someone abusing the handset http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg3l7m_motorola-defy-test-extreme_tech
LOL. It looks as tough as a Nokia. I'm just wondering is the battery internal or user replaceable? And does it have a virtul querty keypad that pops up on screen?
Looks like Motorola could finally be on to a winner with that phone after being a lame duck for so long. I think its a bit beyond my budget though ATM. The Wildfire on Vodafone does look tempting. Do I want higher costs and better reception of voda though or higher handset price and stick with lower cost of 3 but a bit worse reception and customer service?
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Do you want your phone to work in remote areas? Do you want a really nice phone to use?
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LOL. It looks as tough as a Nokia. I'm just wondering is the battery internal or user replaceable? And does it have a virtul querty keypad that pops up on screen?
It ooks pretty replaceable according to this review (and photo) http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/motorola-defy-910332/review which are about £5 for copies on Ebay. As for battery backup I use this on my Navigo http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/16151351/Camlink-Sigma-Emergency-Charger-Power-Pack/Product.html?searchstring=camlink+charger&searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&urlrefer=search No guaranteeing it would work on whatever phone you buy but it is very cheap to find out.
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FWIW, I find the 'improved' touch screen of my new X6 (replaces the 5800) a right PITA to use with VR if using gloves. Where I could drag the map around on the 5800 with a corner of my torch, pen end, fingernail (if un-gloved) or whatever, it is almost impossible to use the X6 without removing a glove. I far prefer the scren of the 5800 to the X6, partly because my fingertips are not small and it's easy to touch the wrong bit of screen. Because I use VR a lot, and especially at night, I am seriously thinking of getting another 5800, which I will have as a backup for mountain travels, using O2. The X6 is not so good as the 5800 on a weak signal, either, but better than the C7, which was cr*p! So IJ, if you will use your phone a lot with VR, I would go for a 5800 while you still can. I think that's what I'm gonna do, because there's nothing I have found which is as good for my purposes.
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Ok the battery on the Defy is user replaceable, but your prolly better off with what searcher2 or the really tempting Veho Pebble Mr Swold suggested (£29 on amazon and should give 3 full charges to the Defy...im having one  ) One problem with the Defy which Rob kind of points out is, you cant use the Defy's screen with gloves on  otherwise it has an onboard keyboard and there's lots of different types you can download from Android market if the included one isn't to your taste, but TBH they are all pretty similar. On a different note, I actually the use Orange network, it has good reception in my area (Ennerdale) and seem's to be the only one that receives a good 3g signal, in my back yard at least (ennerdale valley) although its been a good 18 month since I last tried another network, Voda also seems good as its the one my sister uses and she never seems to have trouble with reception when she visits. A m8 from a local town has T-mobile and is allways complaining about reception on the otherhand. Yeah the Nokia 5800 is a great phone for the price (from £60 on Ebay if you don't mind secondhand) The Androids will get better with time on the VR front, I think they are on a par atm with the 5800, but then that says more about the 5800 at its price point than the Androids tbh. Regards, Dave
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On a different note, I actually the use Orange network, it has good reception in my area (Ennerdale) and seems to be the only one that receives a good 3g signal, in my back yard at least (ennerdale valley) although its been a good 18 month since I last tried another network, Voda also seems good as its the one my sister uses and she never seems to have trouble with reception when she visits. A m8 from a local town has T-mobile and is always complaining about reception on the other hand.
Orange and T-Mobile are now one company effectively and you can roam between the two networks now. However Orange seems to give consistently better 3G coverage than T-Mobile.
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hey i am also facing same problem for the touch scree whenever i open the the keypad option on my touch screen it starts blinking. I have tried out all the option for this even i have done restore facorty setting but its not working and sometimes the keypad is not operated i just have to restart my phone. HTC wildfire case HTC wildfire case
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