 Well went into Cotswold when i was doing an errand for work and tried out the neoair on their very rock test surface. I was well impressed! Even lying on my side i could not feel the stones below. Will definitly be buying a Numo. Oh and for anyone interested they have a sale on Inov8 Terroc 330's. Got me a pair for £54! Made it a brilliant trip to the shops!
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multi mat are bringing out a new lightweight body contour range that are well priced and weights similar to the neo air im waiting on them to arrive as i plan on updating my multi mat for the new ones
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Just ordered a Numo so will let you know what i think of it!
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 Amazon has the POE Thermo Ether at 33£ at the moment (free p&p)
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Amazon has the POE Thermo Ether at 33£ at the moment (free p&p)
Thanks, i see that, even though i am a bit late but to be honest i am happy to pay the extra £7 to save about 100g.
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I'm on the verge of getting a Neo Air but still need a little convincing. Has anyone witnessed problems to do with baffle seams bursting or pin hole leaks around the seams.
I know its a fragile thing but I take care of my equipment and would only use it inside a bivi or tent never straight on the ground.
I'm a hot sleeper so would only use it by itself all year round but would it be foolish to use it without a CCF mat for protection?
Cheers for any feedback.
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 I look after my kit too. I've never used mine with a closed cell mat. But then, since I look after my kit, I tend not to pitch on top of rocks either which might damage the groundsheet of my tent! I know this can't always be avoided - there were certainly some hard things under my tent in Scotland in October - but I don't use the NeoAir fully inflated (like many others I find a touch of limpness adds much to the comfort), so it maybe 'flows' a bit better over bumpy bits on the ground? Anyway, never had any problems with damage or maintenance.
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 "like many others I find a touch of limpness adds much to the comfort" Would it be at all inappropriate to make a crude joke about the above 
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It certainly would not be inappropriate, Bedouin. Inflatable mats have long been the source of much smutty humour. The original instructions for the Exped Downmat, poorly translated from the German, were hysterically suggestive with comments about 'male' and 'female' attachments, the correct firmness, and the suggestion, when it came to firmness, that you should 'let experience be your guide' 
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ROFLMAO.... good to see a sense of humour!! 
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Well i got my Numo today. First impressions are very good. The material seems to be tough enough. Tried it on the floor in the house and it is very comfy. The sewn through down definitly works as you can feel the heat difference with your hand over holding you hand on an area of the mat that has no filling. Can't wait to try it out now!
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Monty - Exped will replace that under warranty, no problem; their customer service is superb. Either contact the retailer or get in touch with Lyon, the distributors.
i'll second that - although i feel that their service is better than their product. i've had 3 exped air mats; all have leaked air around the seams between the baffles. they are not 'over inflated' quite the opposite.
good customer service counts for nothing when you're away on a trip, miles from anywhere and your mat deflates during the middle of the night leaving you cold and uncomfortable. ok, so you can grin and bear it for a night, but 2,3,4.......... yes, i look after my kit, most of it is over 10 years old and gets replaced when it wears out or i like something new and shiny. the only piece of equipment to let me down is the sleeping mat. exped, therm-a-rest, alpkit. the only mat to have survived is my late 1980's short, fat therm-a-rest which i use on top of a closed cell foam multi-mat, for extra warmth (legs and winter) and as a fall back for when the therm-a-rest decides to call it a day (or should that be night?)
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i have a multimat adventure superlite which has lasted a few years and there customer service is great i must say if i was going on a very long remotee hike i would bring a compact closed cell foam mat as a back up
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 i have a multimat adventure superlite which has lasted a few years and there customer service is great i must say if i was going on a very long remotee hike i would bring a compact closed cell foam mat as a back up Or a repair kit...
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 The new NeoAirs look interesting. A bit of tenacious tape should do the trick.
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How can you have a 'new' NeoAir? NeoAir means 'new air'! ;-) So, what are these NeoNeoAirs?
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Cross baffled (this would equally apply to me given your pedantry) OldAirs with an R value of 4.9 and weighing in at 600gish.
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 I do wonder. I had an old 3/4 length Thermarest Expedition Lite (or something) for over 10 years. I got rid when I bought a Prolite - two of those failed in less than two years, and the Exped in three months. Something's not right in that equation. The failures were all of the kind that cannot be field repaired with any amount of duct tape.
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The failures were all of the kind that cannot be field repaired with any amount of duct tape. I’ve only managed one successful repair (1 small puncture) out of 3 leaks at seams, 1 leak around the valve and 3 punctures.
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 Department of "they don't make 'em like they used to'... I've had an old "standard" T-rest for 20 years now and it's had one puncture (from a cinder coming off a fire when it was in "chair mode"). My Ultralite is a mere decade old, and has also only ever managed a single puncture. NeoAir c/o ThatNice Mr. Claus, so hope it holds up when it's time comes! Pete.
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