 A good thin wicking synth base will reduce total insulation and improve evaporation but I doubt it will remove the problem as its August  , Alta II is a long lined jacket, overkill for the temperatures by probably 10C. A mobile sauna. Setting aside the waterproof aspects of the Alta II, the body can easily produce more sweat than it can evaporate, if you look at the fact the Paramo Analogy is an outer windproof which reduces evaporation and a liner which adds insulation, it is way too warm for this time of year. The sweat which is evaporating is probably condensing on the inside of the outer windproof layer and combining with what rain gets through the windproof layer and adding to a sodden Alta II. I'd be using a highly breathable simple shell, with pitzips this time of year, mine is a Marmot Aegis for when with a backpack. The alternate completely different approach is to not bother about being wet, and that's a windproof over a Merino top, the Merino is comfier when wet than many synths, and you simply keep walking and you're warm but wet but at least the wet items can be squeeze/shook a bit and you switch to dry clothes for overnight and wait for a dry day to dry your clothes. That's an approach for summer.
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 Isn't that what the Romans did? Just keeping marching with woollen smocks.
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 Um yes, surely far too warm round about this time of year. I'd not consider mine unless planning on hardly moving. All the breathability in the world (which it has) is a bit pointless if its making you sweat a huge amount more! Base layer maybe a small effect but nothing massive. Humid, warm summer rain really is just nasty though.
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 Isn't that what the Romans did? Just keeping marching with woollen smocks. Woollen tunics, so lots of ventilation! Woollen cloaks if it was pissing it down. They probably didn't worry that much about being damp, cf: the bit in the thread on The Wildest Dream about people being 'tougher' in earlier times. I don't think they were necessarily 'tougher', just didn't have the same high expectations / experience of comfort that we do.
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... see what i mean .. it's your fault for wearing merino .. it's your fault for sweating .. it's your fault for wearing it in summer and sweating .. same old same old .. how much water does a Paramo jacket hold?
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 .. it's your fault for wearing it in summer and sweating ..
It is a bit like wearing a fleece and a windshell in midsummer though. I'm surprised it was bearable.
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"how much water does a Paramo jacket hold?" That one I can answer - a lot 
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 Do the same route when it isn't raining. See if you stay any drier. 
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 ALS, I know it's pish isn't it! I had the same issue with B&Q the other day, apparently using a battery screwdriver as a hammer invalidates the warranty. Smart mouthed yoof behind the counter kept going on about using the right tool for the job like it was MY fault. 
Steve D
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Well we learn by making mistakes. I hadn't used the jacket properly as yet, now I have a better idea about suitability (or otherwise) for summer. Assuming wetness was down to me being a sweaty so-n-so. 
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.. the guy's worn a supposedly highly breathable waterproof jacket in the rain and got sodden - but sure, it's his fault, he shouldn't have done that. If there was just one thread like that on here then maybe, but there are countless ones. If sweat was the issue, then you'd expect the wetness to be most under his rucksack, but he mentions the arms - a flex point - being wet the next day so sounds to me more like rain was the problem. I briefly had a Quito - after the zip the arms were one of the first places rain penetrated.
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Ummm. Its hardly being defensive cf the technology to point out that Parmao simply isn't rationally usable in summer! I think if it had leaked he'd quite likely have noticed while he was moving. cf it holding water, the outer fabric is pretty thick and will wet out so can easily hold non trivial amounts of water. Thats just a drawback of it on multi day trips. The liner fabric - especially when new - though certainly shouldn't hold non trivial amounts of water so if it was doing that then there could well be a problem. (stopping the liner from holding water is why you have to wax treat them omn a periodic basis.). Can remember wearing a Taiga (fleece outer + liner) in an utter deluge. That coped but afterwards I could literally shake water out of it like a dog.... It could well be worth checking in a shower or something, because it if is leaking it should certainly be returned.
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