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GOF
19/03/10 20:02

here

The boast is that it doesnt need a wind shield as it operates in the IR spectrum.

Unconvinced myself

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Mole
19/03/10 20:13

Doesn't give a weight

go on Simon - get one - you know you want to!

(or wait for RMac to  get it, redesign the stand with a 50% weight lreduction,video it in action,write a few blog pages about it and then not use it again cos he prefers meths anyway!)

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Specifications: TK150
Apply globally-unprecedented and patented technology. Feature:
1. Super resistance to wind: whether the flame is big or small, it has this function. Even being put
in a whole gale, it works as usual. This way we can finally get rid of the clumsy wind-board. 
2. Super energy-saving raise heat-absorbing efficiency at 35%):
(1) Substitute far-infrared for traditional flames, ensuring more complete combustion.
(2) Substitute enclosed combustion for traditional, improving heat-absorbing efficiency greatly.
3. Multifunctional: In addition to functions of normal stove, it can do roasting, infrared heating,
with advantages of far delivery, resistance to strong wind, adjustability normally works when tilted).
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GOF
19/03/10 20:18

LOL...I'll wait for RMac.

I just dont think it'll live up to it - I think it'll be heavy (seems to be based on a multifuel chassis and then there is the emitter gauze) and inefficent (depending on absobtion of IR)

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Mole
19/03/10 20:24
be interesting to see it.  Could be good for cold winter camps -warming cold hands n faces or drying socks!
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R_Mac
19/03/10 22:28
 Scottish ice ace 2418 forum posts 19 photos 5 reviews 16 bookmarks
Mole wrote (see)

(or wait for RMac to  get it, redesign the stand with a 50% weight lreduction,video it in action,write a few blog pages about it and then not use it again cos he prefers meths anyway!)

LOL, it wasn't exactly worth the effort was it?  

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Steve_D
19/03/10 22:37
 Scottish ice ace 775 forum posts 12 photos

I'd be interested to see a stove that doesn't work in the infra-red spectrum.

Steve D

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Mole
19/03/10 22:56
R_Mac wrote (see)
Mole wrote (see)

(or wait for RMac to  get it, redesign the stand with a 50% weight lreduction,video it in action,write a few blog pages about it and then not use it again cos he prefers meths anyway!)

LOL, it wasn't exactly worth the effort was it?  

well....I prefer meths when solo too

it is a decent stove - (the cyclone)  and it's good for 'proper' cooking.

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captain paranoia
22/03/10 12:44

> 2. Super energy-saving raise heat-absorbing efficiency at 35%)

Not quite sure I understand this (along with the rest of the Chinglish), but 35% efficiency doesn't sound too good for a gas stove.

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bailout
22/03/10 19:16
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Interesting. I wonder whether instead of having flames all the gas is burnt withing the burner and hence the heat is only radiant heat? (Apologies to any chemist/physicist/sciency types for my casual and no doubt incorrect use of terms)

I am surprised they don't give a weight, they do for the rest of their stoves.

Can anyone remember the name of the manufacturer of these stoves? I think someone did post a link to their site at one point. Perhaps they would give more details. I am thinking of getting a cyclone and this is tempting but I will probably stick with the known cyclone.

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captain paranoia
22/03/10 19:27
I can't see a purely radiant stove being as efficient as a conductive stove, but I'd be happy for someone to point to references that say otherwise.
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Mal Mawr
22/03/10 20:03
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When I was out in the Far East with the Andrew we used to buy locally produced porno novelettes but only for their comedy value..."Stod stod she crid as he fuged her on the soda"...get my drift? I only mention that because many adverts and operating instructions of Chinese origin have the same comic quality. We used to call those booklets AFOs, admiralty fleet orders, because they made as little sense.

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bailout
24/03/10 19:08
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Radiant heat was the wrong term. I think it might be similar to cooking over a fire. A normal stove would be equivalent to hanging the pot in the flames and the new one is like hanging the pot over glowing coals. I suppose the pot is heated by the hot air rising from the stove rather than the flame is combustion taking place.
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GOF
24/03/10 19:45
Think you'll find radiant heat is the correct term...as the heating effect is from infrared radiation being emitted by the red hot foil (though, arguably there will be some conduction from the hot exhaust gases)....this explains the claim that it isnt effected by wind.  Infrared radiation isnt effected by wind - rising hot gases are
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Nick Rose
29/06/10 13:11
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I've gone and bought one of these stoves. So first impressions:-
Its quite a solid well made item and folds up quite compact. Advertised weight is 255gm. On our kitchen scales it weighs 11.5oz so 326gm, quite a bit more; it comes in a plastic box which is another 2oz.
It does not have a pre heater tube but has a piezo ignition that folds away.
It measures 90mm across the top of the bowl and the fold out legs do not go into the bowl and so the stove is too big for many of the lightweight pots you get these days min dia to balance would be about 110mm although you could put a couple of tent pegs across.
The principle of this stove seems to be the same as those gas heaters that you get with large parabolic reflectors. The gas flame is contained within a gauze; this is quite thick and solidly made and quickly heats up to red heat and the bowl reflects the heat.
I've tried boiling 500ml water it took about 3min 15 on full power. I've also tried it in a windy spot and it seems to work fine so those claims seem correct.
As I see this stove its very controllable particularly if one wanted to simmer for some time and in that sort of use will probably be more efficient than a more normal stove. It can be used as a heater and maybe a grill. I would say its more of a stove for 2 or 3 people on a trek or a base camp rather than an individual.
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myotis
29/06/10 14:55
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Nick,

This sounds an interesting stove, a more versatile version of the MSR Reactor.

I would appreciate some comments on how noisy it is. The MSR is meant to very quiet.

Thanks,

Graham
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