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10/04/12 16:53
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i bought one too - and it also was a replacement for an ultra quasar that had gone passed the point of economic repair.

 now, i have not used it in driving rain or snow, so be aware. however, i've used it twice in stiff winds - once on a very exposed cliff top near woolacombe with about a 40mph wind, and the other on a bare mid-wales summit at 600m or so, again with a 30 - 40mph wind.

so far none of the materials appears to be of a lesser quality than in my ultra quasar (bear in mind this is a 15 year old UQ weighing about 3.5kg, not a modern slimfast job), and the workmanship is certainly equal. while the buckles/QR's/tensioning are a bit of a faff, they are, imv, easier to do than the pole/hole system on the UQ, particularly with cold, wet hands.

having lived in it for about a week, i can say with conviction thats it much easier to live in than the quasar - more storage pockets, its higher, and the doors are much easier to get and and out of with wet, bulky kit and to 'manage' while you're in the tent. a tiny thing, but an act of genius, is little mesh pockets in the ceiling of the inner which mean you can stuff your light in the pocket to provide illumination for cooking/reading rather than blinding yourself and anyone else with a headtorch.

 so, in overview, i think its as good as a 1997 UQ, it weighs about the same and takes up about the same amount of space - i used mine in Patagonia, South Georgia, Tadjikistan, Scotland and Canada, all with stupid weather, and from what i've seen and felt, the Kangri should be as capable, but more comfortable.

 i'm very happy with my purchase (i also the considered the Marmot Asgard 2P, the North Face Mountain 25, another TN Quasar, and a MHW Trango 2) the only thing i'd suggest to anyone - whether they're going for a Kangri or not - is to get some form of groundsheet protector. i went for a £5 heavy duty job from Hi-Gear.

 mine is, of course, bright red...

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Bedouin
10/04/12 17:04
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Been using the Kangi exclusively now since January and have to say on the whole I think that Alpkit are onto a winner with the tent. That not to say there aren't things I'd change.

1) I hate the door design where you have to lean fully out of the tent to open the zip.
2) the 'Candy Cane' tent pegs are worse than useless.
3) storage option limited i.e. roof space almost unused.
4) still dislike the zips and there configuration.

I'm surprised I didn't initially mention it but I'm concerned that theres no internal ventilation openings.

That said I've found it easy and quick to put up in bad weather its kept me dry and on 1 occasion stood up to a very impressive storm on a pretty exposed pitch. i think that all things considered the cost of £300 is very reasonable its a shame that Alpkit is mail order only.

to sum up I don't think that anyone buying this tent for year round anywhere in the UK usage will be disappointed.

Once I've been able to get some summer use out of it I'll do a proper (with sound, not shaky etc) video review.
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Bedouin
10/04/12 17:04
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I have to say I've been really surprised at the number of people here and in various other places that have commented on the size of the sleeping bags and saying its somewhat unfair to describe the Kangri as a tight fit when using them.

My response would be....

When looking at tents it easy to see that most if not all have a use 'descriptor' i.e Festival, Backpacking, Mountain etc.

When I think of a Festival tent I think of something that would be cheap quite heavy and suitable for a bit of rain wind but wouldn't hold out for long.

Alpkit describe the Kangri as a 'Mountain tent' Now, I don't particularly assume that its going to be used on a mountain but what I do assume is that its going to stand up to some seriously bad weather. In my view the 3 assumptions I make about that are 1) cold, 2) sitting it out 3) amount of kit.

A good warm sleeping bag with a good 'warmth latitude' is essential especially if your SITTING/LAYING out a storm as your not generating much heat. The chances are that your going to have a fair amount of kit even a bit of redundancy so its important to have enough space to store it without breaking it or becoming a liability.

SO to sum it up to me a mountain tent should offer a more roomy size compared to say a backpacking tent hence my comments about the Kangri being a tight fit for 2.

I'd be really interested in peoples thoughts on this.
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Kelvin
10/04/12 17:34
I view a mountain tent as one that will take a storm first and foremost.

Kit would have nothing to do with it personally. At most I've took more down but that's about it. With increased volume in the sleeping compartment comes colder temps. A tight fit for two would be of benefit surely? Having two porches, each with their own doors would/is far more important to me.

You've said before Mr Greene that you like to cook properly and you can see that from the amount of stuff you have in the porch but for many who do high altitude mountain trips, dehydrated food is all they use. Oh, and cup-a-soups. Kit is kept to a minimum and redundancy isn't really an option. My MH tent is possibly more cramped in the sleeping area but two of us have spent sunny days and cold nights in it quite happily, when you're knackered from altitude all you want is sleep and there's enough space for that.

Looks a good tent to me, a little heavy maybe and I'm not sure about the snap fit buckles but every tent is a compromise somewhere and I'd rather have the 10,000hh floor than my 3000hh one!
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captain paranoia
10/04/12 21:57
For me, a mountain tent is likely to have to hold far less kit than a festival tent. After all, unless you're Jeremy bloody Clarkson, you're going to be carrying the kit up the mountain. Oh, I guess you could have had a team of porter-wallahs bring it all up for you.

Internal vent options? Are the doors not double-walled? i.e. can you not simply open the inner, solid wall zip at the top/bottom a bit? That's the usual way of venting such a tent.
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10/04/12 22:43
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 the Kangri is more spacious inside than either the Quasar and the Ortik Jetstream 2, both tents that have a significant mountain pedigree.

 i think the 'not big enough' thing is a combination of people not understanding what a mountain tent does, and is for (as opposed to a mountain basecamp tent) and people having their nose out of joint that Alpkit have produced a mountain tent for £300 when most will have paid upwards of £450...

 i had no problem with two blokes in the tent with 5 season down bags, roll-mats, two 65ltr sacks, cooking gear, boots, waterproofs, climbing gear and cold weather kit. anyone who has a problem with the amount of space has brought too much stuff.

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Nick P 10
11/04/12 09:24
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Nice review Bedouin, I'm certainly contemplating one now!
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