 Yep, you'll notice that there's no list of lightweight fetish sites at the end of the article. That's because we wanted to know which ones you found useful in the real world, so post the URLs and I'll add them. Thanks.
Jon
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 dunno ask Jeannie and the Tarp! they're bound to know!
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 That's a nice site Joan, I haven't seen that one yet. Here is a direct link to a backpacking gear calculator., or you can root around for it on www.backpacking.netI'm now trying to weigh every piece of gear I own and adding it to the calculator - you can then try different combinations. You can also swap lists in.dat file format with your friends. I have decided, much to Jeannie's anguish, that my sack is far too heavy at 2.7kg (the Osprey Aether sacks seem quite good at around 1.4kg for 60litres). And no matter what I try, I can't get much below 10kg because being a gentleman I end up carrying the whole tent (2.7kg), stove (175g) and cooking gear (450g). I'm definitely looking for some lighter weight footwear and have my heart set on trying some five ten cragmasters, but haven't yet been back to the lakes (achilles tendon still bruised from the last backpack!). And isn't Ray Jardine an absolute star - I have an old copy of Yosemite Climber from 1980 with a picture of him hanging upside down on Separate Reality, a particularly way out roof climb. Didn't know he was getting into so many different things.
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 www.bassplace.freeserve.co.uk/wildcamp/index.htm
Not weird but a useful and inspiring site dedicated to wild camping and the Lake District Fells. Some good tips on techniques and equipment and some great trip reports, especially the latest, The Hidden Coves of Scafell Pike.
Some food for thought maybe in light of the Wasdale thread?
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 I have often used the mountains list that the chap at Wildcamp has done...and some of his pics are very good.
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 Wildcamp is a site that I return to again and again. It's simply wonderful.
And what Bob (Tarp features) neglected to say above is that I carry the food and wine to balance out his carrying of the tent.
The return trip is rather light for me as we have eaten most of the fodder and my knee has usually 'gone' by this time so he still gets to keep all the tent!
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 www.monmouth.com/~mconnick/index.html
Try this one, all very Yank orientated, but you have to start somewhere.
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www.monmouth.com/~mconnick Ok I'll get the link correct this time.
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Try backpackinglight@yahoogroups.com and
backpackinglight.com. The latter is an online magazine.
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http://archaeology.ncl.ac.uk/postgraduate/studentpages/DBrookshaw/optimised/index.htm
The Cheviot Viking Project, made me laugh anyway. I'll have to take care next time I'm in the Cheviots.
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What a set of nutters!
Nice.
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 Just read the Light Club article, which gets the prize for best title this year...
However, have to say - don't knock bubble wrap until you've tried it. It's not as bad as you think, although it can sound pretty bad - generally whilst kneeling on it getting in/out of tent - and it makes you laugh (and others laugh at you). Two layers has roughly the warmth/comfort of a standard karrimat (if you aren't on snow!), and 3 is luxurious but still only, well, about 50g - how sad is that eh?
Right - I'll be off to weigh my tentpegs then...
PS research shows macpac tent stakes are 10g each...
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I'm not sure about the inference in the title of this thread that lightweight sites are weird!
Anally retentive, maybe...weird, no.
;0P
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...and you can drill holes in them to make them even lighter...
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Challenge for you Alex - see how many holes you can drill in a tent peg B4 you affect its structural integrity....
...then try it on your tent...
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 8 holes made by a 5mil drill bit in a standard alu peg
coat please
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now drill your tent...
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Thanks Ben...saved me all that trouble...I don't think I'll bother now!
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Alex - you tellin' me you can't beat 8??
And get a sun roof in that tent ready 4 next week....
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