 They look great Jon. As you say, perfect for folk who hate 'proper' cycling shorts and want to wear something more normal or multi-purpose on an extended trip.
Any idea where they're available from?
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 Bionic, eh?
But do they make you go any faster?
;o)
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http://www.walkhigh.co.uk/acatalog/Montane.html are listing them. Came across them the other day on their site and was thinking of buying some, review has helped my decision!
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"Bionic, eh?
But do they make you go any faster?"
Nah, but thay make your @rse look like 6 million dollars!! ;O)
Edit; Btw, thanks for that link TeeJay :)
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 Haway over to buttmagic the lot of ya.
tsk
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 Someone on here once told me your backside comes much cheaper than that Matt! ;-)
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They were lying Jamie!! :)
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 Do they do them in pink?!
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Marketing Dept at Montane here....
Bionic Undershorts are also available at lots of bikeshops as well as the good online outdoor retailers (very few outdoor retail shops will have these in stock). see www.extrauk.co.uk for stockists...
happy biking...
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 Can't much see the point in these. Most mountain bikers wear baggy shorts which have their own liner and pad. Failing that, why not just wear an ordinary pair of cycling shorts as undershorts, there are some very good ones available for half that price. As for wicking and anti-pong, never heard anyone in my club mention these qualities in shorts, ever, then again we're all tragic refugees from the Tour de France (roadies) and can handle a bit of moisture. Sore butt? then you're not riding enough. Come to think of it, I can't ever remember having a sore behind from mountain biking, you're moving around constantly on the saddle shifting weight around and standing for rough patches, short climbs and descents.
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 OK, first, more and more baggy shorts are coming without a liner or with an option of a liner - Endura, for example, now sells baggies without liners, though you can buy them separately.
Second, most liners use pretty cheap pads, often just a bit of fleece. And yes, you could just wear lycra under baggies, but Lycra doesn't wick, it just absorbs water, so if you want something wicking, then it's not much help.
Thirdly, we featured the liners because quite a few OMers are occasional cyclists who don't have battle-hardened rears and are more likely to appreciate a more effective pad.
Fourthly, roadies smell, we all know it. But if you're not ever getting a sore butt mountain biking, you're simply not riding enough. Try a 24-hour solo ;-)
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Just received a pair. Waist sizing is spot on and they're very nicely made. Unfortunately, the legs are very tight, perhaps exacerbated by the silicone leg grippers. I'm a leisure cyclist and I don't have massive legs by any means, but if they're tight on me then the more serious cyclist doesn't stand a chance. They'll have to go back I'm afraid.
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I found the legs fine in a medium and as anyone who knows me will confirm, I'm not exactly a stick insect and have quite big thighs. What size are the ones you're sending back?
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 I have no doubt these are a good product for all the reasons that Jon mentioned. But if you want to save some cash, I recently found these Helly Hansen Lifa / Coolmax Bike Shorts at Helly Hansen's Bicester Village outlet store for £3 a pair. I was forced to go up a size as they didn't have L. The Medium made me sound like a castrati on helium... So a slightly loose XL it had to be. But they handle moisture exellently being polypropylene with a coolmax pad, so I can wear them under winter leggings whilst also being OK worn solo.
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Jon, I'm a 40 inch waist and ordered a XXL as per Montane's size guidance. Considered opinion from shmbo is that my legs are 'skinny'.
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I guess it's possible that the proportions of the larger sizes are different, or your's are ;-) Ultimately I guess it's the usual problem that it's impossible to produce clothing which is cut to fit everyone.
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