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Bad news in the Cairngorms
 
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Walker falls 61 metres
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Poor conditions led to a walker's death and caused the cancellation of the BBC's Great Climb programme.

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BlondeBimbo
19/08/07 09:50
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News from this morning:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/6953567.stm

 

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Imperial Dave
19/08/07 10:17

yes saw this this morning

thoughts go out to the family.

The website said atrocious conditions so I can imagine it must have been horrendous out there. It seems we are reminded that even in "summer" the mountains can be a harsh and unforgiving place

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BlondeBimbo
19/08/07 11:23
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Well I am south of the cairngorms - and the wind/rain was very bad - one of our large oak trees lost a huge section to the wind yesterday- spent a lot of yesterday evening and all this morning trying to clear it down - hanging rather precariously over the garden shed!

So  Alder which is much higher and more exposed would not have been a nice place yesterday (weather wise).

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Smeg
19/08/07 11:27
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A sad story, chances are he was well prepared too to even consider going out in such conditions. Brings it down to earth that all it takes is one slight mistake and it could happen to anyone.

 On a side note, how did they get a seaking out in such windy conditions?

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Terra Nova
19/08/07 13:07
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A terrible tragedy.  I know exactly what the family and friends of this gentleman are going through right now and my heart goes out to them.  If they are reading this then I give you my heartfelt sympathies.  I am very sorry.  It would be nice to know more about the person who died.
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Andy Mayhew
20/08/07 11:12
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Must have been bad weather to have washed Ben Alder all the way across the A9 .....   

(last I looked, Ben Alder was due west of the Cairngorms )

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DavidG
20/08/07 12:24
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Andy  -  You couldn't have looked very closely - Ben Alder is south west of the Cairngorms

 If you are going to be inappropriately pedantic, then at least get it right.

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Andy Mayhew
20/08/07 13:23
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West-south-west  

It's not the Cairngorms, it's definitely not south of the Cairngorms, in fact I don't know why Cairngorms get mentioned at all?  Why not say 'east of Ben Nevis'?  (Alder is twice as far from the 'Gorms as it is from the Ben).  

And on a serious note, if a friend died, I'd like the BBC news report about the incident to be a bit more accurate!

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Wayne T
20/08/07 15:50
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Smeg

 You would be amazed at what weather conditions they will fly a Sea King in

Andy

 ey up!

on another note, isnt it amazing how the news and others will always mention the Sea King like its some kind of wonder etc.

How about the guys from the Rescue teams humping masses of kit on foot in bad weather for nothing but a thankyou, and sometimes not even getting that!

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druidh
20/08/07 16:11
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More accurate/in-depth reporting here Report
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Simon Parkes
20/08/07 18:50
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Very interesting. And a higher profile for the MRT guys.

"walkers and climbers spent 6.5million days in Scotland's mountains each year" and "Scotland's mountain rescue teams dealt with an average of 300 incidents a year". That's 1 incident per 21,667 days or per 60 person years. 1 injury per 100 person years on the hill and 1 fatality per 700 hill years. And that includes climbers. Sounds almost safer than staying at home in bed. Does anyone know how this compares with, say, driving a car?

None of which, of course, helps the unfortunate victim nor his family one whit.  

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Wayne T
20/08/07 22:50
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Research commissioned by SportScotland using figures from the Mountain Rescue Committee of Scotland, out last week, revealed Scotland's mountain rescue teams dealt with an average of 300 incidents a year, involving 25 deaths and 180 injuries

and no doubt thanks to MR those 180 injuries didn't become deaths

"None of which, of course, helps the unfortunate victim nor his family one whit."

true!

but it does mean that people who frequent the wild and remote places of this country, and some in towns and cities can take solace in the fact that there are cica 3,000 willing volunteers across the country that will leave the house/work; anytime night or day, whatever the weather, to save, attempt to save, or even recover the bodies of people ill or injured or in distress.

I am amazed at how quick the press seem to be these days to try and prove or allude to the 'victim' being reckless/underequipped/inexperienced- blame culture?

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Gordy
21/08/07 08:00

We were on Creag Pitridh and Geal Charn a bit to the north. It was misty with endless rain but not all that bad otherwise. They don't get quite the same battering from the weather that Ben Alder does, I suppose.

Poor bugger.

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Jester*
21/08/07 23:21
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I was on Ben Alder in May, and I wouldn't like to be mucking about there in poor conditions, the previous year I gave the top a miss due to horrendous weather.

Very sad indeed.

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Ken Hom
23/08/07 15:16
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Lauughing at this tragic event is a disgrace 

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druidh
23/08/07 15:45
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* Re-reads the entire thread. . . . *

Nope - can't see anyone laughing at the accident. . . .

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Kinley
23/08/07 15:51
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Even trolls should have standards mate - go play on another thread, or preferably another forum, I'm sure C-beebies will have one.

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Baz Carter
23/08/07 16:11
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A football bias one would be more on par - the C Beebies will be far to challenging for this wok wielder. (obviously a wind up BTW.)
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Walkerman
23/08/07 16:52
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We walked out from Culra Bothy on that Saturday.Saw at least 18 people cycling in. Cloud was down to bothy when we left about 8.30, pretty windy.
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