If your pack has sensibly designed wand pockets (ie stretchy and accessible on the move) you can achieve a similar result by stashing the poles handles first under the shoulder strap of your pack, then into the wand pocket. Any old bit of elastic could be used to tie them to the strap, but it's not really necessary as long as you remember to pay attention when you take your pack off.
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 If not you can make you own with a mini-krab, tie-wraps, 'D' clips and some bungee cord by following the instructions here. Posted originally by someone on OM as I recall, but I can't remember who... 
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That looks good. But not as good as the 'boned black bodice' on the same site 
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That is much smarter! Haven't found the bodice yet, but I'll take ed's word for it. I still think Osprey's packs would be much better if you could take things in and out of the side pockets on the move - real 'stow-and-go'!
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 Poles down the side of the Osprey Atmos, works okay for me as sidestraps hold the poles in. Just remove the plastic 'cup thingies' first. I don't have the flexibility, with/without bodice, to put the poles away (shortening them first), but have no problem drawing them out on the move. I often don't bother with the snow-shoes thingies unless walking across boggy ground. ALS, at least the Atmos has the hip pockets for snacks and the like. But no use for pole storage, not even at my girth 
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Duncan - have you seen the weather forecast for Saturday!? Sunshine from coast to coast. Are you getting out?
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Ahem...you pyshic or what, ALS? Might be, or might not, depends on some real life issues.
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Well, it is a fantastic forecast, and there is more than a little snow, so good luck.
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Thought of breaking my duck for the year and overnighting in the Cairngorm NP, but my gran's just out from an operation tonight, so things a bit up in the air just now.
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 If you can't find the bodice its here
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This looks like a cheap gimmick that will be next to useless on rougher terrain on areas where poles could catch on tree branches, fences etc.
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 Dunno ive never caught my Bodice on trees, branches or fences 
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 Warra load of nonsense. If I'm carrying poles, it's often because I have an axe out, or I'm scrambling. As illustrated they'd get in the way on both occasions.
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 I find that Bob's Strapamaptome does the job. Perhaps that is where Osprey got the idea from.
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You can still strap trekking poles to the side of the pack in the normal fashion, and access the Kestrel side pockets very easily without removing the pack. The idea was to have an additional easy way to store your trekking poles without needing to remove your pack. During testing this has system has proved a very useful feature and has been well liked. We think that the stow on the go system is simple, doesn't really weigh anything or add any cost to the pack and (most importantly) it works. It was developed by Osprey without using any other existing ideas, although the map strap idea above holds the map in a similar area, the way we capture the poles/tighten the cord at handle and base and the way the poles attach to the base of the pack (not the shoulder strap of the pack) is totally different.
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 "Osprey Reinvents Trekking Pole Stowage" ...now there's something that really needed reinventing.
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 the pole carrying gimmick aside, i have a few questions concerning the kestrel 48: imo, it's a pity that the announced weight for the 48l pack (1500g) translates to (at least) 300g more in reality. thus the first question: how do the talon 44l and the kestrel 48l compare concerning robustness (material and buckles)? secondly: i'm interested in the kestrel mainly due to the more civil colors than the talon and the - probably - lower price. rob / osprey: do you know, when the kestrel will be available on the continental european market, and what will the prices look like? thanks, polo
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 Hi Polo, The Kestrel is made from more durable materials than those of the Talon, predominantly using a 420D Nylon fabric for the pack body in comparison to the Talon's 70 x 100D fabric. In simple terms, this means that the Kestrel's fabric is 'thicker' and therefore more durable. This increased durability also explains the weight increase of the Kestrel 48 over the Talon 44 etc. The buckles used between the packs are different in design but are pretty much as equally robust as each other (if used properly!). You can expect to see the Kestrel in-store across the UK and Continental Europe from mid-February with SRP as follows: Kestrel 28 = £60 (€90) Kestrel 32 = £60 (€90) Kestrel 38 = £75 (€110) Kestrel 48 = £85 (€120) I hope the above information answers your questions ok. Thanks, Martin
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 "Osprey Reinvents Trekking Pole Stowage"
...now there's something that really needed reinventing.
Well, actually I think it probably does. I'm someone who uses trekking poles occasionally on steep climbs and on really rugged ground with, say, a big mountaineering pack, but on a lot of terrain I don't use the poles and find them irritating. I've managed to walk for years without them and don't feel the need for them on most trails.
My problem has always been that to put the poles away is a real palaver involving removing my pack and fiddling around every time I want to use or stow the poles, so for me the Osprey idea makes a lot of sense.
The nice thing is that the system's there and you can either use it or not, hell, if you don't want to use it, you can simply remove it and save 20 grammes or something.
As far as durability goes, the pack feels more reassuringly sturdy than the Talon although the basic structure is the same. We managed to hole a Talon inadvertently and while that may have happened with any pack, it's not a frequent issue. Chances are that we caught it on something very sharp without noticing, but anyway, the bottom line is that if you're hard on your kit, then the Kestrel may be a better option for you.
Kestrel test should be up on the site in the next couple of weeks, so far it's been quietly impressive and the integral rain cover is earning its beans...
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Can you get things in and out of the side pockets without removing the pack?
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