 http://woodcraftwanderings.org/shelter.html Interesting basha/tarp sheet knot used here! Not the link I was meaning, but still interesting in many respects here; pertinent to this discussion somewhat I still do feel.
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 > Does anyone think [...] climbing knots look hard to follow They shouldn't. Climbing knots should be simple to tie, and simple to visually check that they're tied properly. That's probably why the fig-8 has overtaken the bowline for tying in; easier to see that it's tied correctly. For climbing, you'll rarely need more than an overhand, fig-8, italian/munter hitch, clove hitch, prusik and double or triple fisherman's. Sure there are other knots you could use (alpine butterfly, perhaps), but those six will get you a very long way.
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BTW - I just realised that I forgot to reply to Cath's original query on the first knots for camping link above here; if one goes to that very first link on this thread, travel to the home page then click on the top menu bar there, for a special whole section on the specialised climbing knots you asked for. Sorry there Cath!  It slipped my mind to say so before...must have tied up my mind that day with a slip knot..or a forgot you knot maybe!
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http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-cclean&p=ray%20mears%20knot&type= Lastly here is the Yahoo search page that takes you to learning those three basic Ray Mears knots he uses most outdoors for hammocks etc on his shows. The first video there is the one to watch - but further illustrations are in the Ray Mears books if you find the video hard to follow, as it is all shown quite quickly.
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Just following on from my weekend novice-bivvying trip (little write-up in the write-up section!) I had one or two knot questions in my head.
I used short pieces (about 8-12 inches) of 3mm rope to tie directly onto the tarp itself, using round-turn-and-two-half-hitches. Then I tied 1.5mm Dyneema onto that as the main guylines (using sheet bend to tie on, and bowline to make loops for pegs/rocks). Is that a sensible system?
Secondly, I normally use an inflatable sleeping mat, but to save weight went with a foam mat this time instead. Only having one strap on my rucksack I couldn't just tuck it on there so had to tie it on instead. I tried to attach two bits of 3mm cord to the mat with clove hitches, but found they unravelled almost straight away. Was I doing something wrong? Is a clove hitch inappropriate in this case, and would something else work better? In the end I had to improvise doing I don't know what, and managed, but it wasn't a secure system for tying the mat on by any means. Any suggestions?
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.JPG) sounds like a knotty problem to me. I use a larksfoot to attach guys direct (why the extra loop?). At the other end for pegging out, I then make a loop and attach the end back to the line with a tautline hitch - or some guys have clamcleat sliders on instead of the tautline hitch. For the latter, I make an overhand loop in one end of my cord, and slip the other end through the attachment points, then once rollmat (or whatever) is in place, put the end of the line through the loop, pull tight, and then use a quick release slip knot to tie up with. For security, I loose-ishly overhand the double loop of the slip knot around the tight line just before before it becomes a slip knot (if you know what I mean... ) hope this helps!
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Nylon cord is quite "slippery" so will creep open unless you use a lock knot or similar. To be honest, I use a piece of shock cord tied into a loop - like a big elastic band. Talking of a big elastic band...I thought Trev was back..
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 thanks for the link , i always forget knots when i need them though  , like someone already mentioned the Gem Collins pocket sas survival guild is an excellent small reference book.
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