 out of interest what tent are you taking ?
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 Anyway, I had a further question about tents which relates to pitching. I have noticed a lot of posts about inner- versus outer-first pitching, and just wondered whether someone could explain the difference and how that relates to pitching a tent in bad weather, or direct me to a relavent thread, please? - Wrote Ltd. http://www.goxplore.net/showthread.php?t=1628 I don't recall a thread just on this subject alone on here of lately mate, but this one here at link is interesting from elsewhere on the web.
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http://www.campingexpert.co.uk/PitchingTents.htmlThe basics of the difference here. Just in the end down to personal preference of which tent you like really isn't it. Getting a tent you like, despite whether it pitches inner first or outer first, is the main point - as one wants to love and respect ones desired chosen tent, that one has liked and coveted, and spent ones readies upon, however it pitches! http://www.realbuzz.com/en-us/link_from_homepage/index?pageID=1438The whole idea of staying dry in the outer pitch first tents, in really heavy pouring rain, whilst inside you are pitching the inner to keep yourself and the inner itself dry, is an appealing feature in a tent for sure. However, there are still lots of good tents that pitch the older more conventional way, and are just as good a tent. And, with rain bucketing down as you pitch a tent, it might still not make much difference to you in the end how the tent pitches really - staying dry-wise. Everything will still be quite wet in many cases still, sadly, even if you try to be so careful! By the way there Ltd, did anyone welcome you to the forum at all, or did we forget to say that? If we did do, then a real big late but wonderful welcome to you on OM forum here!Better late than never, ther'es nothing like a warm welcome still, is there though!
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David, that depends on what I can find out about inner versus outer tent pitching, really, because I have yet to buy a tent, but am considering something like the TN Ultra Quasar or a Crux tent. Clearly, some experience of wild camping would therefore be prudent, in this case. I've heard some say the TN is a base camp tent and without much porch space, for example, but, ultimately, I mainly want something durable that can be used almost anywhere and doesn't weigh an excessive amount.
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Trevor, I think I may not have received one, but that's no problem. I actually changed my profile name after the first few posts in the gear section (I was le Cox sportif for a little while).
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 How many in the party? Quasar is serious overkill for one person! For food, dried food weighs much less than boil-in-the-bag type. I recommend the style where you boil water and add it to a foil pouch: no cooking and saves lots of aggro at the end of a long wet day, no washing up either. Try here and here for ideas: I can recommend the main meals from both suppliers. Definitely have a bit of a dry run overnight in the garden. Make sure you can get the tent up and down quickly (think rain, wind, poor light...). Be absolutely ruthless with weight. For a 3-4 day trip you should be looking at 12Kg all-in (with food and gas). Don't underestimate how bad every unnecessary Kg will feel by mid-afternoon. (PS: Unna has poor porch space, bit heavy; would recommend an Akto over the Unna unless you are canoeing! In an Akto you can take on the world...)
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 I'm not familiar with the places you plan to explore, but if you think there might be situations when you're pitching your tent in wooded/forest areas, a large tarp might be a very useful addition to your kit, offering almost instant shelter from the rain while you gather yourself and make futher plans.
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freezerbagcooking.com
packitgourmet.com
great food/ cooking ideas. Im sure they will ship to the UK
NOLS national outdoor leadership school has some videos and great books etc
minibuilddesign,com
check out his videos great information on just about everything including cooking, gear etc
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I'm with Zubald re the tent issue -- the Ultra Quasar (which I've used) and the Crux tents I have seen are serious overkill for this country. They give more security than you realistically need and weight too much. Something like the TN Laser Comp, Hilleberg Akto or Vaude Taurus UL would be much better for what you're aiming to do.
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but heres something that it took me a long time to learn....
a but of mountain wisdom......
when winter camping in the snow.......
dont go where the huskies go and dont eat the yellow snow.
take this advice or leave it.....
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Hi Everyone!
Just been scrolling through your threads! as I am too drawn to wild camping! I have a new light weight tent on order a gelert solo and I have the woods at the back where I live to try the little beauty out! Pitches inner 1st, so will get a taup, just in case the heavens open! I only want it for sleeping in! anyone ever used a Gelert solo, would be interested on any feed back on the tent
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 If Living The Dream dies whilst out there, I'm going to hold Trevor Gamble personally responsible! I have three tips for you: Filter your water (travel tap recommended for that). Keep dry, carry some sort of towel. Take alcohol. (Thinks never seem to be as daunting when you're pissed).
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 (Thinks never seem to be as daunting when you're pissed).
Partaken already have we. 
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As always Geoff, yes. The other night I bought a sleeping bag on here. I vaguely remember looking up the specs. Still, it was a good buy so overall I'm happy.
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Re the solo. Limpet like bombproofness, you could stick a rolls Royce jet engine in front of it on full throttle and it wont move. A small tarp to act as a vestibule is a great idea as there's no way you can either sit up or cook in it, i like your thinking. Inner first pitch, yeah, but it goes up so quick it's a non issue in reality, i wouldn't take the tarp through worry of the inner getting wet, a cloth would do, if you practice pitch it just a couple of times you'll be good to go. Looking forward to your trip report.
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 you could stick a rolls Royce jet engine in front of it on full throttle and it wont move. Bet ya Rolls Royce are now brimming with pride
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 Started with a Solo, more of a bivi than a tent but if you only go in to sleep then very handy, get light pegs to replace the heavy ones it come with. You can create an awning with the outer door, with a pole and a guy line. It takes bad weather very well due to low profile.
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