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New Insoles? These Ones Are Mouldable...
 
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New Insoles? These Ones Are Mouldable...
Stick 'em in the oven and Sole footbeds adapt to the shape of your foot and they feel great...

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ed h
03/10/08 19:17
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...and for a mere £17ish you can get the Montrail Enduro heat-mouldable insole from Fast and Light....I have been using them for a couple of years and they are better than Superfeet (for my feet).

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ALoveSupreme
03/10/08 19:40
£35 on their own, yet when Haglofs introduce them in all their boots next year there will be "no significant price hike" according to this OM article. Must be the cardboard box that costs the money then. Or just that they are stupefyingly profitable when sold alone.
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Glyn
03/10/08 20:38

Not quite sure what benefit there is to be had from footbed that moulds to the shape of your sole. Surely it should be shaped to offer support where required?

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ptc*
03/10/08 20:51
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I've used the Montrail ones for ages and I've had a set of the Soles on test for a while and they're actually pretty different. The Montrails take your foot shape more definitely, the Soles are more subtle.
The benefit that I've found is around the toe area, on descent there's less forward slippage and your toes are encoraged to stay a little apart to stop rubbing. This is all really subtle stuff though, and maybe not as relevant to me these days as all my footwear fits me really well.
Both are non orthotic though, so they're just a nice surface for your foot to go onto? The Soles take up less volume than the Montrails as well.

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ed h
03/10/08 20:53
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...and after you have bought them your wallet has less volume as well....

I am lucky most footwear suits me; I just go through shoes fast...

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ptc*
03/10/08 20:57
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Aye, I use the manufacturers insoles 9 times out of ten 10. I have to wear insoles in those Hi-Tec nanobots because the internal volume is cathedralesque.
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ALoveSupreme
03/10/08 21:36
I'm not knocking the product; just the price. At least they don't claim more miracle cures than the New Testament.  In fact I think something that moulds a little to the shape of the bones at the ball of your foot and your heel without attempting to control your foot is probably sensible; back in the day when men were men and boots were leather boots had leather soles which adapted to your foot in much the same way. But £35? Half the price of a pair of boots? And if you just want to adjust the volume, Inov-8, Brasher and Scarpa sell volume adjusters for a few quid.
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ptc*
03/10/08 22:01
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It's an odd thing, I've talked about this many times and still don't have an answer. Since I changed over from wearing a mix of boots and shoes over to just shoes of flexible mids my feet having changed so much. Is it that they're fitter, the muscles are tighter etc, or that I've ruined my feet and will have bunions by the time I'm 50? The shoes thing coincided with me stopping wearing Superfeet as well. Last winter was bootless and my feet were in great nick all winter long.

£35 for a foam insole? I reckon we're paying for R&D there, surely it can't be price point placement so that folk think they're as "good" as Superfeet?

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ed h
03/10/08 22:09
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ptc* wrote (see)

£35 for a foam insole? I reckon we're paying for R&D there, surely it can't be price point placement so that folk think they're as "good" as Superfeet?


Are we paying for R&D cf Superfeet? As good as Superfeet; absolutely not.....ahem

The proven technology of Superfeet stands on it's own recognisance....

Knock yourself out ALS

Anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that the 'less' you wear on your feet (to an extent) the better and stronger they will be....so much as I would like to slouch around the house in white slingbacks I go for bare feet....

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Arranwalker
03/10/08 23:08
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Having used a variety of boot/shoe insoles,i think that those that are warmed and then you stand on them to give an imprint are slightly better.However i think this is only beneficial in Ski boots as the foot operates different to walking.As for cost most of the substantial foot beds seem to cost over £20.00 and  they are tranferable between your footwear.In my day to day merrells i wear superfeet, in my walking boots meindl i have orthotic which are very expensive but do work.Finding footbeds that work is almost as hard as finding a waterproof that works for you. trial and error.
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Martin Leung
03/10/08 23:11
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Changed my superfeet which had been giving pain for some time to the sole insoles. Absolutely fantastic.....easy to mould and fit and very comfortable to use. Purchase mine to fit inside La Spotiva Spantiks. Summitted Mt Blanc in June no foot problems or pain at all.

Well worth the money so much so that i now have them in all my mountaineering boots and running shoes. (Training for 2 half marathons this year....no foot problems since using them)

 Fantastic..!!!!

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ptc*
03/10/08 23:26
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ed h wrote (see)

The proven technology of Superfeet stands on it's own recognisance....


The phrase "It's a racket" comes to mind
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Arranwalker
04/10/08 00:06
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yes but if boot makers put in decent insoles
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Montgomery Wick
04/10/08 05:34
Echoing Glyn's point, I've been using custom orthotic insoles for the last four years after developing Plantar Fasciitis (due to over-pronation). They were cast after I stood in some kind of shaping plaster. The main point to note is, that in order for them to be the correct shape, the orthotics bloke held my feet/ankles in the correct position during the casting process. The resulting insoles felt VERY odd at first, with the arch support much higher than you'd imagine it should be - but they killed the PF stone dead within a fortnight, and my shoes now feel strange if I don't wear them. I couldn't imagine achieving the same results DIY, although these Sole units might be good as a means of prevention rather than treatment.
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04/10/08 07:51
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I've been using a pair of sole inserts for nearly 3 years. I bought them specificlly for my winter boots but now use them in running shoes as well. They come in 3 thicknesses and I actually had the first pair changed for being too thick. The ones are have now are still pretty thick and I'd be tempted next time to get the thinnest possible.

 Like PTC I have difficult feet, they're thin at the heel and low volume so boot and shoe buying has always been a nightmare. These have been a partial solution stopping my feet sliding forwards and over pronation inboth winter boots and running shoes. Superfeet did not help me at all and I took my one and only pair back on the month guarantee. As MW says above the arch support feels much higher than you'd expect.

 If I'd known about the Montrail one at the time then maybe I'd have tried them as I'm not made of money however they meant a week of  Scottish Winter was far more comfortable on the feet than the previous two years using volume reducers and I no longer bash my toes running downhill. Not sure what is going to happen this year as like PTC my feet have changed shape so I think the Winter boots are not going to fit. Oh well. Better start saving.

Ben 

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Parky Again
04/10/08 10:18
i ownder how much the haglofs footwear is going to cost with retail £35 insoles in them?
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Fencer
04/10/08 11:16
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Posted this many times before but here goes again.

Your local NHS podiatric clinic will fit and supply insoles at considerably less than any of the above options. Like free. They are, at least in my area, expert in diagnosing and fitting insoles from simple foam inserts to full orthopaedic fitments. I have them in all my boots and shoes and they're at least as good as any I previously bought.

Tell your GP, who may not know of the service!, that you wish an app. with one of the many clinics.

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ALoveSupreme
04/10/08 12:27
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i ownder how much the haglofs footwear is going to cost with retail £35 insoles in them?


Parky, according to Jon Doran's piece here in "early 2009 .. all Haglofs footwear will come complete with SOLE Adaptive Insoles with no significant price hike".

So, it must be the box that makes them £35.

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Cakey
04/10/08 13:12
A+E   " Sir can you please explain again how your feet got burnt so badly and covered in jam ?  I popped my pop tarts in my shoes instead of my moulded insoles ...
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Parky Again
04/10/08 13:52
i was confused by the pictures als.
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