 So has anyone bought or seen one of these? There were some cheaper torches that looked a bit like Tikkas at the recent German outdoors show, but have you seen any on sale in the UK?
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 There are a load of them or sale on ebay, I noticed yesterday.
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 They've been on sale on ebay for at least a few months. A guy I work with found a website selling them as well. They tend to have either four or five LEDs and a flashing option (!?). I've had a look at one and they look a bit cheap in comparison to a Petzl, but there's not much to a Tikka anyway. I think they sell for around 15 pounds. You can also get fake Zipkas.
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 I had heard about these about 6 months ago so I bought a Petzl Zipka copy from ultraleds.co.uk for £8.
It has 5 LEDs and is brighter than my Petzl version.
Out of the packet the Petzl feels more solid but when you add the batteries they feel quite robust.
The on/off switch is not as stiff as I would like so it is easy to switch it on by accident but you could just reverse a battery when it's in your rucsac.
They do have an option to flash on and off by pushing the on/off switch the opposite way to the normal on position.
On the back where the elastic comes out there is a small magnet which is more useful than you would think.
Over all I'm quite happy with it and for £8 not a major worry if I break it.
Cheers
Andy
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 Ultraleds was the same place my workmate got one from. Very cheap! The tiny key fob ones for £2.50 might appeal to the ultralight types - Jarl?
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Erm..I think I bought a tikka lookylike from the classifieds section on this very site! To be fair the guy did say it was LIKE a Tikka. Its been pretty reliable so far and yes the flashing option is very useful indeed (but only for annoying your mother in laws cats).
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 Have just had a look at the ultraleds website; very interesting. I think this publicity may be about to backfire on Petzl.
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 Alison, erm, why???
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 www.ultraleds.com
I guess what Alison is saying is that Petzl has actually drawn attention to the existence of UltraLEDs and similar.
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 Because I've just ordered the ultraleds one. For £8 I'll take the risk on quality. I've alse ordered the ultraleds keyring light in case the head torch packs up in the middle of the Carnedds.
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 Just don't send it to the Petzl importers and ask them to fix it ;-)
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i'd never erd of em but imagine mi suprize wen i typed it in and up flashed a pop up f personals,,,,got mi sen a new wife n a flashy lamp. med up tha nos,
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 They do seem like a bargain, but I like the look of the new Tikka Plus with the directional beam...
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Princeton tec do one. It isn't cheaper but is better. In my opinion anyway.
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I'm sorry Petzl I was going to buy a new Tikka Plus at £30 but I have bought the Ultraled at £8. That leaves £22.00 I can spend in the pub on Friday night. Whay Hay !! Another Hungover walking day on Saturday but what the hell.
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 "Ultraleds was the same place my workmate got one from. Very cheap! The tiny key fob ones for £2.50 might appeal to the ultralight types - Jarl?"
I could never buy something that cheap, it's against my principles.. I've already bought the (real) Zipka Plus.
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 Buy a Princeton photon then Jarl.
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 Well, the Ultraled has now arrived, and it is certainly very small. The package fitted through the letterbox, so no complications over delivery. On the down side, I can see that the battery casing is going to let water in, which could be a problem. Other reservations are about not being able to adjust the brightness or beam direction, and will it fit my various different helmets? Nevertheless, for the price I'm delighted. I am looking forward to putting it though its paces over the next year. At the end of the day, I still have my five Petzl Zooms to fall back on.
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