 Penyfan is ideal for "novices" and a low risk when introducing young people not used to hillwalking. I would not say the same about Cadair. Of course Ala knows their own child, but given that they have not done anything themselves for 8 years and then asking for advice shows an element of doubt, in which case, not having the luxury of knowing either individual, my advice would be to leave Cadair for another day and start of simply, and build on any enthusiasm it might generate. As they say, even 1000 miles joureys start with a single step. Ironically, you mention the fantastic views from Cadair, well I have to say that of the numerous numbers of occasions that I have done it, I think I have only been able to see a view from the top on one or two! And of course, the Beacons is much easier to access from London!
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It has an extra 200mtrs of climbing but other than that...anyway I'm not really used to this forum malarkey, i guess i'm wrong giving advice.- so u'd better stick to a 10,000 posta. yaki dar to you!
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No need to be offensive. Cadair might only be 200 metres more, but it is much steeper than the gentler slopes of the beacons and a much more serious undertaking, especially for those of tender years not used to it. By all means, we all give advice and an opinion, that is what this site is all about, but we should consider all the implications of what we advise. Goouide hellthe to you too!
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The pony path up cadair isn't particularly steep and is a very well trodden route! Every hill like a person has its gentle side... I don't feel there are any implications to this suggestion. for you to imply i'm putting somebody in danger is cachu..
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Brecon Beacons I have decided to go to Brecon Beacons If the weather is good we will go up Pen y Fan and poss Cribyn . If the weather turns once we are there poss Mynydd Liangorse. We hope to stay in Brecon I was thinking of Merthyr Tydfil but I think from memory that it is not that nice there
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 No, don't stay in Merthyr. Don't even think of staying in Merthyr. Stay in Brecon. Stay anywhere else!!! If you're camping, there's Pencelli near Brecon which always gets excellent reviews. In case of cr@p weather, you could visit the Llangorse activity centre; they have a campsite there too, but I don't know anything about it.
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 The campsite at Llangors would be a great place to go with a kid. Theres toilets and a shower and a field. You can have a day climbing or( lots of instructors if you need one) and hire kit. Theres horses, donkeys and the whole place, even the climbing wall is geared towards kids.
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Its going to be BB LIANGORS looks interesting but a bit expensive I will give them a call . I see that Merther has not improved over the decades
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Oh Merthyr has DEFINATELY "improved" over the decades - they built a bye pass so you can avoid it!
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I hope Liverpool has improved over over the decades 
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Why? You don't have to pass it on the way to the Beacons!
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I once lived in a very unpleasant part of Liverpool and I compare Merthyr to it
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Yes, but doesn't Liverpool also have some nice areas?
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Got your point What are the conditions under foot in the Beacons at the moment . I am thinking about going next weekend if it stays mild and poss dry .
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All the snow now gone, had heavy rain couple of days ago but it has been largely dry over the last few with some good sunshine, so it is drying out nicely. Having said that of course, it would only take one storm to reverse that !
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Well we are off to the beacons this weekend staying in Libanus . One of the routes I thinking of taking is up from Dovers arms and then along the side of Cwm Sere and then across above the waterfalls .Is it a hop across the stream or is it in spate at this time of year bearing in mind I am taking a 10 year old with me or should I find another route. We would the do Pen y Fan and Corn Du and then down via Cwm Liwch or more likely if he is getting tired down via Cefn cwm Liwch,
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Hi Ala
We went up Cefn Cwm Llwch on sunday (after ascending Corn Du from Storey Arms and descending via Cwm Llwch and walking along the lanes for a few km). Conditions atm are excellent up there - ground is pretty dry and it makes for pretty easy walking, and the Met Office mountain forecast for the rest of the week and into the weekend is looking cracking. If the forecast's right, you'll have a fab weekend. Ascending via one of the ridges on the north side of the escarpment will make the Brecon Beacons look like real mini-mountains I haven't walked up Cwm Sere and then tried to ascend to one of the ridges - you'd probably need to zig-zag up the side of the valley but it should be do-able and there are loads of sheep-tracks on the sides of the valleys. I usually go up one of the paths extending all the way along the fingers of ridges coming up from the north side of the escarpment. If you're in a car, I'd almost be inclined to drive up to one of the car parks in Cwm Llwch or Cwm Gwdi to avoid too much lane walking with a little'un and then go up Cwm Llwch or Cefn Cwm Llwch. The latter is one of the hardest ascents in the BBNP, but you'll be ascending the highest summit by its hardest route. Llyn Cwm Llwch - the little corrie lake under Corn Du - is lovely and well worth stopping at for a rest to dip weary feet into. If you go up Cefn Cwm Llwch, go up the track on the west side of the river, not the footpath that shoots up the hill in a southeasterly direction from the lower carpark at SO025 248 - it's a vilely steep start to a walk and you have to fight your way through vicious gorse to find the bottom of the path!
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