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Ausin96
21/06/09 01:58
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Hi, I've seen there are a few posts on walking in the Outer Hebrides but I was wondering if anyone had advice for the best route to cover the length of the islands from Stornoway to Barra. I'm hoping to do this expedition with a friend wildcamping along the way but I'm sturggling to find a decent guide to plan our route and work out how much time we need.
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Paddy Dillon
21/06/09 08:26
I've never heard of a guide offering the sort of route you're looking for, which sounds like a great idea, by the way. So, what you'll have to do, if you're unfamiliar with the area, is track down whatever you can, read up on as many routes as possible, then make some attempt to join up the ones that are running in your general direction. Of course, you'll find gaps between them, and those gaps may be huge. At that stage, you can only rely on what the map is telling you. It will tell you where the rocky and boggy bits are, and how steep the ground is, but it won't tell you if it's knee-deep heather or brambles! When you put your plan together, you probably won't know if your intended wild camps are going to be OK until you actually reach them, in which case you may have to keep walking. Also, unless you're going to carry all your food, you need to make sure that your route passes any shops along the way. Water, on the other hand, shouldn't be much of a problem.
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mynthdd
21/06/09 08:41
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Can I just say at this point that I am in the middle of writing such a guide!!! done the route and various logistics (esp water sources), maps, wildlife bits, shops, PO's, geology and history - will be back this summer to check all I have done actually works

Andrew

ps Paddy, should I contact publishers now? or after?

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Paddy Dillon
21/06/09 08:54

Andrew - Now or after? I can only tell you how I do it. I always get everything agreed before I start walking. That way, publisher and author can kick ideas back and forth, and either side might come up with additional ideas that are well worth considering, and there's also the opportunity to shoot down in flames things that aren't such a good idea after all. If you present an entire illustrated manuscript as a fait accompli, then it might not tie in with a publisher's house style, in which case they'll want changes, and those changes could be major. What I suggest is that you take a sample couple of stages, along with your introduction and contents list, and make an approach to a publisher at this stage. Do it now, because if you're planning a return visit this summer, they may want to suggest things to you before you do any more work.

As for Ausin96 - maybe put your plans on hold for a couple of years and you might find the ideal guidebook will suddenly land in your lap!

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ecco
21/06/09 09:59
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Try "The outer Hebrides - the timeless way" by Peter Clarke. It's not exactly a guidebook, rather more an account of a of walk along the entire island chain but you can follow the route easily on maps.

http://www.outerhebridesway.org/

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tubby turbot
22/06/09 21:08
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A full circuit of Barra is recommended, and wander over to Vatersay for a picnic.

Don't miss Eriskay - again take in its coast and beaches as well as highest point.

South Uist - suggest a combination of west and east coast, as they are so strikingly different. West coast not great for water, but you can (I think) camp by the Gatliff hgostel at Howmore - but don't bank on any sleep due to the corncrakes! From Howmore head east to the highest hills - great walking - then drop down for a couple of days moving north up the rocky empty (midgy) east coast. Tip for S. Uist - miss Lochboisdale, its very down at heel.

Benbecula - I have mixed feelings here, with empty bogs and rocks, but at least there's a good shop at Creagorry and I've camped near to it with glorious sunsets over the strand to S. Uist

North Uist - call in at Grimsay, nice harbour, etc, then take in a rough route around Eaval/Loch Obisary, leaving the road at Claddach Carinish. A day or two later return to civilisation and maybe hitch over to the west coast - Vallay Strand, beautiful machair, etc. plus Balranhald RSPB reserve, views to St Kilda on a good day

End up on Berneray - this is where Prince Charles spent his holidays planting potatoes in the 1980s. Camp by the Gatliff hostel, put your feet up and watch the otters playing outside on the beach.

Harris and Lewis - I've never been!

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Ausin96
19/07/09 02:32
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Thanks everyone for the awesome response sorry I haven't replied been at my parents where the internet is a scarce thing. I think I'm going to reverse my route as the risk of missing the flight back to the mainland is a bit much for me so I'd rather fly out and ferry back I think. Anyone got any advice on buying a pack for this sort of escapade I only have a 35 litre and I know there's no way that will suffice.

ben

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Black Sailor
19/07/09 09:40
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Yes, you'll need a bigger pack - 60 litre, maybe?  Plenty of good advice on this on the gear section of OM. 

You don't actually need to reverse your route in order to end the trip by ferry - Calmac run ferries from Barra to Oban.

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SD
19/07/09 11:03
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Like to do a trek of the Islands ,whats the best time to go. May ? To avoid the midges.
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Black Sailor
19/07/09 11:43
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May is often a good time for weather in the west of Scotland.  As for midges, you may get some, especially later on in the month, but they may be a bit less numerous than later in the summer.
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Mike fae Dundee
19/07/09 12:47
A friend of mine cycled the outer hebrides, and said it was one of the hardest things he has done, even though his route was mostly flat. He had a headwind for the whole trip, and much of the route was exposed to a strong wind straight off the Atlantic In similar conditions, midgies won't be a problem.
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Judy A
19/07/09 18:29
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My experience as well ! Kept turning the corner, looking fwd to a relief from the constant headwind, only to find ... another headwind.

I also got royally soaked, forgot to pack a headtorch and had to flag down a passing motorist on arrival as it was as dark as the inside of a coal cellar, and could find no food on a Sunday. But the beauty of the Hebrides was astonishing, and so many birds and unbelievable beaches ... am sure your walk will be superb !!

Judy

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Ausin96
19/07/09 19:00
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I take it a windstopper would be a good choice then to say the least. I'm looking to try and find a decent rucksack does anyone have any experience of the Vango Sherpa or the Contour as they seem to be pretty well made and decent value for money. Have looked at the Berghaus C7 series but I'm not sure if they're worth the £40 price difference is the back system really THAT good?
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John Gillatt
29/07/11 13:37
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I finished waking the "Timeless Way" on 4th July, trying my best to follow the route from Peter Clarke's book plus a GPS track from the LDWA website.  To do the 10 inhabited islands, including a full circuit of Berneray was 230 miles and took me 14 days.  There's a full account at http://www.gillatt.org/hebrides.

For a fairweather walker like me I must say that it wasn't one of my favourite long distance walks.  The route I followed included a lot of road walking, though with very little traffic, and a great deal of the off road parts, except on South Uist, were mostly without any tracks that I could find and involved yomping over squelchy, boggy moorland.  Having said that, there is extreme beauty on the islands and, if you like it, solitude.  I said goodbye to my wife, a non-walker, at Kinlochroag, walked to Kinlochresort and on to Bowglass and when I met my beloved there I hadn't seen a single person all day.

Only saw midges one day - but they had teeth six inches long! 

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rob dixon 3
29/07/11 21:56
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Re midges, spoke to a local person (N Harris) when there 2 years ago, mid May.  She told me that midges aren't really a problem until July.  Maybe the gales subside then???  Either way, it's encouraging, as further east (Rum, Skye etc), they are simply horrid from about mid May.
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John Gillatt
10/08/11 15:25
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During the 14 days walking the Timeless Way I never met another walker who was walking the route, had done it or had even heard of it.  It's obviously a well kept secret and probably all the better for being so!  Does anyone have any idea how many people walk the route each year?
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Peter Clarke 3
21/08/11 16:33
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Good question John.  The book has sold well and is still available.  Based on walkers who contact me I would say that two or three people per year do the whole walk.  However, more do individual sections of the walk. 

John Gillatt has done well to do the whole route and has published a fantastic web site giving full details of his walk: http://www.gillatt.org/hebrides

The walk may appear to be a well kept secret but the vagaries of the book trade do not help.  With the notable exception of Stanfords in Covent Garden, few book sellers stock the book but they can and do order it upon request via their wholesalers.  Electronic mail order companies are relucant to take this route so more often than not list the book as "not available".  If you hit this check out www.outerhebridesway.org

The book has always been available mail order via the publishers and can also be obtained on line via www.outerhebridesway.org.

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Dennis Gilbert
30/09/11 08:53
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I was inspired to do this walk when I read Peter Clarke's book.Remote places, desolation and sparse human habitation appeal to me and I have done many such walks in the UK and abroad. I finished the walk a few days ago and was not disappointed with the beauty of the islands, the welcome of the people and the evidence of its history so well described by Peter Clarke.
I attempted to mark the suggested route on my OS Landranger maps before I went but there were no grid references, place names or compass bearings to enable me to do this so I hoped that I would be able to follow the book whilst I was walking but that proved impossible particularly in bad weather.
I had a tough time on Lewis Moor and even worse going over the hills from Grenitote to Bayhead where I was often knee deep in water and peat and had to cross about 5 deep, fast flowing, wide streams. I missed out the section from Kinlochroag to Boglas as it sounded horrendous and I dis not want to take risks.
So, to be safe, I walked mainly on the roads and could still enjoy the islands in that way.Not my best ldp by any means but I'm glad I've seen the Outer Hebrides.
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Fort
25/10/11 18:25
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A bit late on this one, and may be of no interest, but one of the best events ever for me was the Hebridean Challenge. A true adventure race over five days with a proper stop for all teams each night, road bikes, mountain bikes, swimming, kayaking and fell running all used to create a continuous route. The joy/frustration of the running was virtually no paths, lots of long sea inlets amongst the bogs and lochans - a good micro navigation test for all. Shame it all changed from out of season to mid season, if in fact it is still going, it changed from a blessing to a burden to the local economy.

Been back many times at a more relaxed pace just to keep taking in the ever changing spectacle of the Hebrides, and even when you think you 'know' particular routes, the mist rolls in from nothing, so the maps are your friends. South to North certainly seems to get the most favourable winds!

Austin 96, if you haven't bought another pack yet, take time to get one fitted that suits your shape/size, and that has pockets/compartments that suit your needs, forget brand names. Its a bit like boots/shoes, fit and function first, with user reviews further down the line.

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