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New low-level, multi-use trail would link Coniston and Broughton via an old railway line.

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Parky Again
15/10/09 08:53

signposting. accessible to people. disgraceful more like.

people must buy a map, a compass and earn how to use it before tackling anything. waymarking is a blot on the landscape and should not be allowed at any cost. the mrt are overwhelmed with calls and ventures of this type will only encourage hoardes of the under prepared, ill equiped and ill-dressed out into the country where they will get lost and impose further strain upon the emergency services. what wil they dio when it snows, it rains, it's foggy, it's sunny, it's summer; it's winter...

why should people be put at risk and put others at risk when they can easily buy a guidebook or stay at home instead.

another blatant commercial exploitation of the wilderness that is rapidly being eroded because of schemes like these, not to mention my income as i earn a living writing about it. i have over 55 years experience of walking and hence know what i'm talking about.

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Mike fae Dundee
15/10/09 09:04
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Arranwalker
15/10/09 09:23
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This planned route has in fact been in discusion for many years.Part of it is in daily use,that being the Broughton end of the railway line.The stretch that is available is very pleasent and used by all ages,and it would be great if the current landowners of their sections of the old line agreed for it to be opened up for walkers.
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Tytto tho Pesh
15/10/09 09:32
damn right, parky.  i feel the same way about roads and road signs.  what on earth do people think they're doing leaving the house and travelling in a huge tin container if they don't know their route in advance!  madness!!!  waste of paint!!!  and who pays for the paint?  we do!!!!!!
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Matt C
15/10/09 09:55
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I blame the Victorian railway builders myself. If only they'd had the skill and determination to build their tracks to proper destinations, like the popular Lake District summits, in the first place, then all of these 'post-Beeching, re-use as recreational amenity' trails would now remain the preserve of the true mountain man!

And another thing... what will this do for the local economy if people don't need to buy expensive boots, jackets, rucksacks and emergency paraphernalia before they embark upon it?

Pah, ridiculous idea!!!

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Metric Kate
15/10/09 10:04
Matt C wrote (see)
I blame the Victorian railway builders myself. If only they'd had the skill and determination to build their tracks to proper destinations, like the popular Lake District summits, in the first place
What, you mean like those Victorian railway builders who had the skill and determination to build their track to the summit of Snowdon?
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Ninja Marmot
15/10/09 10:14
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Oh thank god, I htought it was another Trial magazine....
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JustinM
15/10/09 11:39
In the OP:
"signposting. accessible to people. disgraceful more like."
This is most worrying. Do we have to vet all who require "accessible to people"?
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GrimsbyWalker
15/10/09 13:37
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erm, am I missing something here, or is Parky being somewhat precious?
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Parky Again
15/10/09 13:40
i think an inspection by a vet is a good idea. that'll put some of that lost money matt refers to back into the economy. applicants will need to wear stout boots though - so a vet tells me...
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Grumps
15/10/09 13:58

Ah, c'mon Parky!

How many times have you got to the top of a peak and thought 'I could murder a pint'?

Get more people out there and we'll have a pub on every top - and a Starbucks for the TT's . And a decent bus service back down.

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John Williams 11
16/10/09 09:32
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The walking route is an excellent idea, as a local it would provide be a great improvement for the area. We already know how to use a map, compass and have the correct outdoor clothing. This route would provide a safe means for my children to enjoy the outdoors, a days biking between home and Coniston, instead of been forced of trails by weekend city bike warriors.

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Paddy Dillon
16/10/09 09:54

This looks like another "Talks about Walks" exercise.

This Coniston-Broughton idea crops up regularly, and it's been aired before over the past 20 or 30 years. So why isn't it available on the ground? I'll tell you why. The longer people 'talk' about it, the more money the consultants can earn. So, you chip in with your comments, the consultants copy your comment onto a piece of paper, and charges a fee for doing so. End result... the consultant gets rich... the public foots the bill... and you still don't get a trail on the ground. What you get is a piece of paper telling you how good a trail would be, and what you'll never be allowed to see is the cost of that piece of paper.

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WiredAndTeary
16/10/09 11:02

Too right Paddy, us consultants do have to work to earn a living.

Not certain that people working for Capita get rich though, not exactly big payers and operate very much at the bargain basement end of the market.  Although I can see that it must be galling that your county council has a large contract with the same company that run the TV licensing authority. Have you refused to pay council tax too?

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Paddy Dillon
16/10/09 11:09

When I pay my Council Tax, I get my bins emptied, my road swept, and lots of services whenever I want to avail of them.

If I paid for a TV licence, what would I get for it? Duh... without a telly... nothing!

However, now that Auntie Beeb is paying ME hard cash for their crimes... I could almost smile on the organisation!

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Parky Again
16/10/09 12:13
john. don't let facts or common sense get in the way. it may well be nicely mapped and well waymarked but who's going to pay the wages of the people who will have to check that you have a map and compass about your person, sending you just over there for a practical test, and that your footwear and other clothing is of a practical nature. until these issues are sorted out this path is going nowhere.
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Paul Willgoss
19/10/09 20:46
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Parky,

as someone who regularly leads a group of people who were born with their heart conditions, I can assure you that being restricted to using an "easy access" path does not mean they are unequipped, can't read maps or indeed go out in appropriate clothing.

http://www.guchwalkingclub.org.uk/

Oh, and I'm someone who in the past (while waiting for medical interventions) was restricted to low level paths - because of my heart condition. 

Now if you'd like to apologise and  make a donation -

http://walkingforheartkids.blogspot.com/

Paul

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Parky Again
19/10/09 23:18
paul, my posts on this thread are very much a ripping piss take on the usual utter bullshite that usually comes out when any ideas such as this surface beacuse everyone is a complete numpty who shouldn't be let out unless they meet the "approved spec". needless to say i've contributed to the bs quotient.
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