Tim. wrote (see)

twiglegs wrote (see)

My mate uses the iphone, he can't work out how to upload gpx files to it

There's an app for that!

I bet there is, what is it though and how much does it cost. ?

All inbuilt on the nokia's of course, well drag and drop anyway.

Twiglegs the N900 does all of the above and more for a lot less than the price of an iphone3g.

Chris,

Have at look at this site Maemo. The phone has the best hardware out now, but the software is still in the development stage. It runs os maemo 5 which is a open source based on Linux. I don't use either phone at present for pre loaded digital mapping, however the screen on the N900 is very clear and bright and will cope with this. You can view web pages in full screen just like you do on a pc, so Google map etc run very well when you have network coverage. On the N5800 I use Utm data which is free to get a grid reference if I need it. I have always used paper maps (now printed from pc) and compass and I'm not going to stop this to use a phone / gps to map read from. The battery life of these phones is quite limited and you will be lucky to get 8 hours from either phone will the gps and screen on full time.

Vodafone are having problems stocking this phone, several shops have even seen it yet.

twiglegs wrote (see)

Tim. wrote (see)

twiglegs wrote (see)

My mate uses the iphone, he can't work out how to upload gpx files to it

There's an app for that!

I bet there is, what is it though and how much does it cost. ?

All inbuilt on the nokia's of course, well drag and drop anyway.

(sigh)

sarcasm is wasted in 'ere

OK, many thanks for the suggestions and debate.

BUT

I borrowed my son's Nokia touchscreen phone [5800?] yesterday, had it in a waterproof bag in my fleece pocket and slipped on ice, falling onto that side.  Yup, the screen not so much broke as flew out of the phone.

Which teaches me two lessons.  Firstly, keep the damn thing in my rucksack and not in my pocket.  Secondly- I'm afraid I'm still not entirely convinced on the robustness thing.  Versatility, features, fun to use; sure.  But rock hard- not quite.

Maybe I'm becoming a Luddite in my advancing maturity.

I'd agree, the 5800 needs to be treated carefully out on the hill but doesn't just about any phone. ?

twiglegs wrote (see)

I'd agree, the 5800 needs to be treated carefully out on the hill but doesn't just about any phone. ?

Thanks Gary.  I was planning on using the mapping for route planning only as well as those 'where the hell am I moments'.

 Battery life sounds weak, but not surprising considering all the bells and whistles it has to support.

 Nice pics Twiglegs, and thanks.  Camera phones must be better than I thought.  Or certainly better than the pathetic one on my Nokia 6300.

Chris, it's a 3.2mp camera, what i do is take more shots than i'll need and hope i get a good one, the sunset pic was a one shot wonder though so it can perform ok.

also, i posted a link to the ebay seller i got my spare 5800 batteries from somewhere on here, they were 2.50 each with free delivery, they work ok too, not quite as long lasting as the original one but not far off.

I'll see if i can find the link.

Just had a look and the seller was gizmo deals, he doesn't have any 5800 batteries listed at the moment though.

I was suspect of them due to the price but they've been fine up to now.

Ps, i'm in no way connected with the seller.

I bought this one at play.com for £3.99:

battery

Seems to be pretty good, not as long lasting as a Nokia battery, but a fraction of the price.  Good for a backup battery.

Agree - I've been touting!  Have two, both equal to the original.