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Peter Clinch
08/02/10 14:46
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ttg, I had no idea it had any particular meaning as a word, I was just using it as an incoherent exclamation meaning along the lines of "Bloody hell, 9 litres!"

I didn't drink that much on a day in the Grand Canyon including a stop for heat exhaustion and knowing I had to drink plenty and having plenty to drink.  It's a lot. It's two gallons.  You're actually starting to get into washing out problems here with water intoxication diluting salt levels in your body (the water gets replaced, but the salts don't).

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Warhippo
08/02/10 14:53
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TP
08/02/10 18:20

I suspect you're right Peter. Perhaps MY thirst was a case of low salt due to sweating and all that drinking. I was mis-interpreting thirst signals when what I really needed was more salts. I have been told to consume more salts as I do have low blood pressure.

BTW Peter did you find a meaning for that word that best fitted your meaning on that dictionary site or not? I reckon if I wasn't laughing I should have taken offence at some of those definitions.

BTW does anyone know what is best to do if you are like I was back then? I mean I really was that thirsty and just couldn't drink enough. It was all water too so perhaps my salt levels were low and it was salts I needed.

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GOF
08/02/10 19:00

First of all....beer is wasted liquid!  Alcohol is a diuretic (there is a biochemical series of reactions...but basically your kidneys go into overdrive)...so when you think you are drinking loads...you are making things worse or just drying yourself out!

Secondly...if you are thirsty, you are already a touch dehydrated 

Thirdly, drinking too much is very dangerous (causing electrolyte imbalances by salts flush)

so, I go by the old addage, a good mountaineer always pees clear!

If I am going out next day and the weather is forecast hot I will make an effort to make sure I am well hydrated by drinking water during the day.  I may (dont think this has any scientific background) make up a sachet of diorylite or similar and drink that too to ensure I am salts balanced.

On the day itself, I drink little and often (my bladder is a 3 litre one which I sometimes finish - I dont fill it to 3 litres, might half fill then refill).  If I get very hot or am drinking more than normal (3 litres or more in the day) I often make up a diorylite in a small amount of water and drink that -but more often than not, I just wait till a convenient moment when back at the car or having tea and drink a diorylite then.

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Benco
08/02/10 19:06

There's any amount of things you can add to your water to deal with that ttg. I find a handful of trail mix does a fine job though.

edit: to eat that is, a handful of trail mix in your hydration bladder would probably not be a good idea.

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GOF
08/02/10 19:16

would be a challenge.....

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Parky Again
08/02/10 21:49

beer is never wasted liquid. it will hydrate you. not as well as water but it will hydrate you.

anything salty to eat is more pleasurable than things in the water - reminds me too much of having food poisoning.

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captain paranoia
11/02/10 17:49

> I didn't drink that much on a day in the Grand Canyon including a stop for heat exhaustion and knowing I had to drink plenty and having plenty to drink.  It's a lot. It's two gallons.

Dr Arnie Baker, in his book 'Bicycling Medicine', makes the anecdotal observation that he and his wife once rode a 100 mile trip through a desert, and drank 5 gallons (US, I imagine).  Each...

Whilst the body's sweat glands have (unsurprisingly) evolved to reduce the electrolyte loss in the event of profuse sweating, Arnie recommends 1/2 teaspoon of salt per quart (32floz) of water, sodium being the main electrolyte lost.

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Peter Clinch
11/02/10 18:38
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anything salty to eat is more pleasurable than things in the water

The trick with a salty rehydration liquid isdon't test it until you need salt.  If you do, it's bogging.  But when you really need the salt it's really the Way To Go, as well as tasting like it's the Way To Go.

Pete.

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GOF
11/02/10 20:06

Must admit I dissolve the diorylite in a minimum amount of water and just slosh it back in one....then wash it down with some plain water.

It is repulsive...

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